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[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 100 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Incoherent take. The right is a tool the billionaires use to take shit away from the rest of us.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But bringing people over from the right is important and attacking them is counterproductive.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not an excuse for mystification.

Also I'm pretty sure most right wing people consider themselves "moderate" or "independent" anyway so it's not like they'll feel attacked if we correctly blame the right for its crimes

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Can confirm. Interview a con for my class and he was dead set that he's a centrist. Did have a single left opinion.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Well, when they stop attacking us for believing in human rights, maybe we can have a dialogue.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Exactly, the issues we are diametrically opposed on cannot afford compromise. You can't compromise on whether or not trans people deserve to exist. You can't compromise on whether all school children deserve to eat. You can't compromise on the opposition of fascism, racism, and bigotry. These people can get on the right side of morality or they can get fucked and I'll tell every one of them to their face now that the other shoe is dropping on it. They have been offered the open hand of reason and discussion since at least 2015. They spat in our face for a decade. Now they get the fist.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right and you're wrong. The 'right' is a made up label for class traitors who have been tricked into supporting billionaires. It's incredibly useful for the billionaires because they get the support and it divides the rest of us and we put our energy into the fake boogeyman instead of focusing our efforts on them.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

The right are the lackeys of the owning class and will fight the left regardless of the extent to which the left limits the scope of its engagement.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 month ago (36 children)

Why did they photoshop the miserable Mitt Romney dinner picture

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago

Oh my, his anguished face. This is a work of art.

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[–] cogman@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (7 children)

We aren't talking about massive tax breaks. That's what's insane.

Currently SS is capped at ~$180k dollars @ ~5%. That means if you earn $180k, you pay 9k in SS tax. If you earn $2 billion you pay 9k in taxes.

These greedy leeches are destroying one of the only semi-decent systems all next to no money from them personally.

The actual tax increase from trump's expiring tax cuts is also something like 4%. Meaning these billionaires are doing all this work to save an extra $0.04 on every dollar of income.

They keep talking about the dangers and problems with debt, yet the blindingly obvious solution is a moderate increase in taxes. But instead of even broaching that subject, they are trying to also give themselves a tax cut while destroying social programs.

It's robbery, plain and simple.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meaning these billionaires are doing all this work to save an extra $0.04 on every dollar of income.

$0.04 for every dollar of income doesn't sound like much until you're talking about a billion dollars, in which case it's $40 million.

That's a whole extra yacht!

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I know, they might have to give up the guest private jet.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Luigi is the only solution

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[–] TheMightyCat@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago

That is exactly why its Right vs Left

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fight a class war, not a culture war.

And you, who thinks you are in the “upper class” by making 500k a year. You’re not, you are among the poor.

We fight the people who own billions, not you.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

500k a year is a doctor or something. Someone who actually contributes to society. That's someone who should be rich because of how hard they worked to get there plus how important they are to our society. Elon musk shouldn't get paid a fucking dime.

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[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean technically how they make that 500k matters. If it's all just being a landlord we are definitely fighting them too.

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[–] itspatato@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is photoshopped… the picture was with mitt Romney and trump with his shiteating grin.. why the edit?

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[–] r0bi@infosec.pub 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Messaging aside, be aware that this photo is edited, Musk wasn't originally in it.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wasn't it Ted Cruz originally?

EDIT: ah it was Mitt Romney.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You do not have any "left" to speak of. You only have fascists and neoliberals.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Hey, we got some soc dems. Like at least 3!

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What do you think "the left" is??

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[–] saaaaagard@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago (7 children)

What these dumbasses don't realize is that they do rely on these things - every minimum or even low wage worker absolutely needs these services to make ends meet. These people aren't just evil, they're stupid.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] pcalau12i@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

"this isn't right vs left, this is right vs left"

uh... okay?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Culture war manufactured, class war real.

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[–] El_Azulito@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

As I live alone and pay $500 a month just to be able to see a doctor, I am more and more enraged yet disillusioned the older I get. This is not living—this is fascistic technofeudalism.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The only war is a class war.

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[–] FinalEyes@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

No, this is Good vs Evil. Right vs Wrong. Truth vs Deception. But yeah, Billionaires are the dark half of those and develop extreme sociopathic megalomaniacal malignant narcissism apparently. How else can we explain it?

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Like honestly, my slightly pedantic and rather uneducated take is that there is no right wing. Calling one party ‘right wing’ and the other ‘left wing’ implies that they are in some way comparable, two sides of one coin. They are not, and I suspect never were. The party to the left is on some level concerned with a good faith attempt at governance, however compromised. The party to the right has no interest in governance at all. On the contrary, they have a direct and specific interest in breaking down and carrying off the bricks and mortar of governance. In the US at the moment, the party to the right is doing quite literally that.

My argument therefore is that calling a right wing group ‘political’, or right wing ideology a ‘political position’ is not only a bad idea, it is also inaccurate. Such an organisation is inherently anti-political and anti-state by extension. It is no more concerned with governing than thieves are concerned with the Highway Code when making their getaway, which appears to be exactly what is happening at present. Booooooo. Disqualified. Not a party, not fun, not political.

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[–] Trebuchet@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ffs, i appreciate the sentiment but that's a fucking shit Photoshop. This was when Romney dined with trump in 2016 at the Florida tat palace

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I refuse to believe that Elon Musk is human

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

It kind of is Right vs Left, tho, because Billionaires Welfare and Anti-Tax-the-Rich is a core policy stance on the Right.

[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] Nay@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They played us against ourselves and won.

I meant "Us" generally.

Non-Generally: A lot of us also saw it coming and are watching it happen.

Now we, meaning all of us, need to either accept it and do something about it or continue to deny it and submit.

This -is- the end game.

I can't tell you what to do, because it's going to take a lot. But find whatever makes sense to you, and find people who agree.

I know it's going to get worse before it gets better, but i'd rather "better" come sooner.

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