this post was submitted on 16 Mar 2025
537 points (99.1% liked)

World News

44255 readers
3922 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

US President Donald Trump has signed an order to strip back the federally-funded news organisation Voice of America, accusing it of being "anti-Trump" and "radical".

A White House statement said the order would "ensure taxpayers are no longer on the hook for radical propaganda", and included quotes from politicians and right-wing media railing against the "leftist", "partisan" VOA.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Isn't Voice of America like the USA's equivalent of Deutsche Welle?

Basically a vehicle for internationally transporting news from the US American perspective?

Trump really hates any and all soft power the USA have available.

[–] ferretfacefrankburns@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Soft is a no-no word around Trump. He wants rock hard power, gay porn hard power.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it's one of the US's propaganda presses

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

yeah totally him and not some other dipshit trying to get back to superpower status.

[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sooo... Weakening US influence around the world in order for Putin to fill the vacuum? What is Trump's Russian codename again?

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Pee tape kovnik

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 146 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

I don't understand the naysayers here.

This is hilarious. Trump wants to simultaneously expand the American empire, while he dismantles the tools of it that he's too stupid to understand the importance of.

No matter their mission statement, or any tangible benefits they might have provided, both USAID and VOA, were tools of empire. These aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump's mission is to weaken the US, NATO, and the EU. Eliminating VoA helps do that. Notice how he isn't threatening China with invasion, but Canada and Denmark instead.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because Trump knows that China can and will fight back.

Canada and Denmark are friends of ours that Trump is now throwing salt in their eyes and saying "neener neener" while showing them his ass.

Because of our history, they aren't fighting back.

If they do, Russia wins.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In what world isn't Canada fighting back?

Which isn't to say they shouldn't, but they are pushing back to all the shit Trump is throwing at them. Just because they're not launching missiles doesn't mean they're not fighting back.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're talking about a guy whose business accumen is so poor he managed to run multiple casinos into the ground. His "successful businessman" schtick has always been propped up by a mountain of debt and crime. If he had so much as two brain cells to rub together, he would have stuck with Ivana because she was the only member of the Trump family to have even a shred of sense.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not sure he could have kept Ivana anyway given she said at the time he raped her.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't want to expand the American empire though. He makes noises about it, but words are cheap. Judging by his actions he wants to create chaos so oligarchs can profit.

The ultrawealthy have no national allegience.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I could see him loving the idea of expansion to manufacture a legacy. Jefferson may have been a philosopher or a slave-romancer but that's college academic stuff: every middle school student learns he bought Louisiana. McKinley got us as close to an on-paper empire as we got, and they put him on the $500 note for it.

Soft power will never fill the same goal. Being the cultural or moral lighthouse for the West is inherently different from actually raising a flag over their capitals.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Trump may be narcissistic and senile but he still obeys his oligarch masters, probably from the usual motives of greed and fear.

I don't know what your local children will learn at school but he's fast earning himself a footnote in the international history books as the epoch that marks the tipping point into waning US power.

I may be wrong but I think the problem with the US cult of presidents/"great man of history" theory is that people like Trump keep the US populace speculating what he "wants" or "thinks" instead of on what his function is and what is actually happening.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The kleptocrats run every nation, afaict. There may be a few small exceptions, we will see, and see if they can keep it that way.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Everything Trump does -- everything -- suddenly makes sense when viewed through the lens of "how does Putin benefit?"

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

How does Netanyahu benefit as well.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

See, the thing is, those tools of empire were government-funded. Congress allocated money and resources to those tools for them to do their jobs. The intent is to eventually replace those with privately owned, profit-motivated alternatives. Why do you think they cut NOAA and NWS funding and fired all their probies? So that private companies can fill the void. Then if you want life-saving weather information in the event of a tornado or hurricane, pay a monthly subscription fee to some billionaire's weather/disaster alert service.

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 158 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How is everything that is "anti-Trump" radical? You fucking dictator.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 46 points 2 days ago

"If you smell shit everywhere you go it's probably because you're covered in it" Anon

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It must also be weird for the sycophants who he just nominated to staff it too.

The equivalent of "Daddy got you a pink convertible and you get three minutes to drive it before the repo guy comes"

Oh no, his people will keep their jobs. He isn't getting rid of it, he's just firing anyone who does anything, and his people will come in and get paid to do nothing. It's very likely that he can't just do away with it, but he can just fire the people working there.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll move against the nuclear arsenal and the Army will finally give him the boot.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is this sarcasm? They fired 350+ workers in charge of overseeing the nuclear stockpile before they even knew who they were firing, and nothing happened. To pretend that there is some line in the sand is, at this point, naive.

[–] clutchmarkthree@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

America. Its institutions are fairly tales.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the same country that classified its nukes so hard that the engineers couldn’t find non-redacted procedures for making a critical component of fusion bombs.

We’ve always been incompetent, now it’s just partnered with enhanced stupidity.

Haha, ahh Fogbank, we hardly knew ye

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Under $300 million a year to spread US propaganda to over 300 million people. That's a fucking bargain man.

This is going to give up so, SO much soft power because of a snowflake's ego. This is a bad deal.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess this is better than making VoA voice of trump.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 62 points 3 days ago (3 children)

As an American, I would like to apologize that the idiots of this country re-elected Mango Mussolini. And I'm sorry that the rest of the world has to suffer because of this idiot and his cronies.

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Waiting for you guys to actually use your second amendment.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Well, there was an attempt but unfortunately he wasn't a very good shot.

When they send their time travelers, they aren't sending their best.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Per CNN (per US Agency for Global Media), number of regular listeners, in millions, of VoA...

  • Indonesia 64.8
  • Nigeria 37.4
  • Mexico 37.1
  • India 29.1
  • Iran 12.2
  • Peru 11.9
  • Russia 10.1
  • Ukraine 9.8
  • Iraq 9.3
  • Egypt 9.0
[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

usagm is an independent agency. it and its predecessors, and voa, were created by congress. only congress can eliminate them

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

Yeah, those checks and balances will kick in any day now!

Yeap, any day now.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the managers were told to limit programming to the minimum required by law

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

As someone who used to listen to a lot of shortwave radio, this just bums me out.

I know foreign people who listened to VoA, and now it won't be there anymore for them.

Makes me wonder who they'll listen to, who will fill the void, with the VoA being gone.

~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I know foreign people who listened to VoA, and now it won't be there anymore for them.

Stuff like this is a perfect example of how little Trump understands soft power. That was an outlet for American ideals (ok, propaganda) and American culture to diffuse across the world. Seeing how power abhors a vacuum, I won’t be surprised when China increasingly fills this void.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›