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Why is Hugging Allowed in Boxing? I believe most viewers think hugging makes the sport a bit boring to watch.

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[-] swan_pr@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 year ago

Boxing in real life is not like boxing in movies. No fighter can go 12 rounds just throwing hands all the time. The clinch is used often for strategic purposes, to stop the momentum or interrupt the rhythm of the other fighter. It also is used to get some kind of rest when one is getting pummelled and can't find a way out.

Sometimes it's abused of course. But it is very much a part of the sport.

Maybe the fight doesn't need to be a marathon if it can safely be a sprint.

Watching padded fast guys score points with speed. Less rounds means more speed attacks if it was computer judged instead of the current system.

[-] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But then you would have knock outs happen in under a minute. That would provide less value for the people who spent money to either watch the fight or be there in person. I think it's structured in 12 rounds so that the viewers can betterbbe entertained, even though I feel like that doesn't really show who's the better fighter, rather who can hold out the longest.

Why would more protective padding lead to more knockouts?

I'd propose that with better head protection, you could have three, four-round fights in the same time span as a twelve-round fight, with more guaranteed boxing.

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago
[-] Eonandahalf@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It’s good for them.

[-] Hedup@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's wholesome and gives the sport a balance. Only psychopaths would watch people beat each other without occasionally embracing in a warm loving hug.

[-] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

I've been pushing the commissions to allow some quick pecks on the cheek but I'm getting a lot of pushback

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago

I believe most viewers think hugging makes the sport a bit boring to watch.

It's a sport before entertainment.

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

You're trying to break your opponent's bones, crush his organs, spray his blood across the front three rows of the audience. Not hurt him emotionally.

Disclaimer: boxing is actually a skilled sport and healthy competition, brain scarring issues aside.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 year ago

It resets the position. Otherwise one guy would get pummeled and have no way to disengage.

[-] applejacks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

probably lets the fighters regain energy and keep going.

otherwise they'd tire themselves out pretty quickly.

[-] counselwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

but if they remove it or at least penalize to deter hugging, wouldn't the athletes just adapt?

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's so that they can go to fight, then clinch when they can't do it any longer. By "adapt" they would just not do anything and walk around instead.

[-] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It would just be a huge change to the sport in general. You would probably see fighters losing all their power by round 3

[-] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Holding. It's called holding...

[-] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah? Then why doesn't the ref award anyone 10 yards on the play? /s

[-] TesterJ@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[-] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Yes, clinching as well. Upvote. I just forever hear Mills Lane in my mind yelling 'No Holding! No Holding!'. Never heard it refereed to as hugging though.

[-] wazoobonkerbrain@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I call it cuddling

[-] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

They are lonely.

[-] kurogane@lm.helilot.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Muay Thai, when your opponent tries to throw a knee, they hold the back of your neck and pull you.
A knee to the stomach or plexus is really powerful, so you have to act fast.
The best defense in those cases is to hold the back of their neck in return, pull them closer so that they cannot strike, and try to throw a knee first.
It ends up with a play of the two opponents holding each other and trying to throw a knee while closing the distance.
And most likely ends up in the dead lock or "hugging" that we see in match.

I'm sure there are other techniques that involve this holding in MMA. Forbidding it would remove those techniques from the game.

[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

It's called the clinch and is a huge part of the sport. There can be a lot happening in the clinch that casual observers won't necessarily see or appreciate. Some of the all-time greats were masters at working the clinch.

[-] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

You seem to know your stuff, what are the rules of hugging ? What’s preventing an opponent who knows he is up in points to just do that until the end to not risk any comeback?

[-] platysalty@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

What’s preventing an opponent who knows he is up in points to just do that until the end to not risk any comeback?

You just described Floyd Mayweather's career.

[-] counselwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Floyd was one of the first persons I thought of that abuses clinching, I remember watching his fight with Pacquiao and it was boring as hell. 12 rounds of nothing.

[-] platysalty@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That fight was such a huge disappointment and was the event that brought my attention to his fighting style.

Yes, I know he's technically within his rights to fight like that. But I am well within my rights to lose respect for a guy who won't face an equal opponent head on and resorts to playing "the game" like a coward.

[-] counselwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

He's why I thought of this post. Such a boring fighter.

[-] formContainer@feddit.ch 7 points 1 year ago

If you are talking about western boxing which I assume you are (No kicks or anything but punches). The human body simply can not go at full pace for 12 rounds like that. If you want to watch some entertainment, fast pace, less hugging check out boxing in the Olympics. They are some mad lads

[-] Tygr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Hugging in boxing is why MMA/UFC took off.

[-] doublejay@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

which is hugging on the floor. in speedos.

[-] Dirk_Darkly@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

MMA should really just update the rules to allow kissing at this point. Uh, I mean they should allow mouth grapples.

[-] Atrabiliousaurus@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Submission by rear naked smooch.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget the occasional nibbles.

[-] KGB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

In fact, forget the speedos!

[-] counselwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

I know the referees pull them out of the hug but it's just not good when the fighters finally got close enough to go blow for blow then they hug and all the action dies down.

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