Last December the Court of Milan ordered Cloudflare to block sites added to Italy's Piracy Shield system. Cloudflare sees itself as a neutral intermediary but increasingly frustrated rightsholders say it should play a more active role by assisting their fight against piracy. A decision issued by the same court now requires Google to poison its Public DNS to prevent access to pirate sites. It was handed down on March 11 without Google being heard in the matter.

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[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

https://opennic.org/

[–] blinkfink182@lemm.ee 3 points 23 minutes ago (1 children)

Genuine question: is the performance up to par with Google or cloud flare or quad9? Been looking to move to a more privacy focused dns provider but obviously want to keep performance up too.

[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 minutes ago

I have no way of knowing. I think they're the same imo

[–] DaveX64@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The Pirate community should just abandon DNS altogether and use IP addresses...most of us are savvy enough we don't need that Pablum anyway 🏴‍☠️

[–] green@feddit.nl 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Tor itself has a pretty good routing scheme that seems like it could replace DNS entirely. There are obvious (but surmountable) UX issues and there may be scalability issues - but it is 100% worth investigating.

[–] DaveX64@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

FMHY should just distribute an updated HOSTS file, lol 🏴‍☠️

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

Or something like OpenNic.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 81 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

He who cares about privacy even a little bit and uses Google DNS servers doesn't really care about privacy.

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I know at least one person who said they use Googles DNS because it stopped them getting pissy letters from their ISP.

Some people only care about privacy to the point were they don't see the immediate consequences for their actions.

[–] darkknight@discuss.online 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Lol what? I'd be curious to know the amount of dns queries required for an ISP to complain about this. I'd think it would have to be massive. Also, unless it's in their TOS, they wouldn't really have to comply. The only downside is if they're the only ISP for the user, which sucks and happens.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 32 minutes ago

think the pissy letters were about what the user was accessing not how frequently.

[–] green@feddit.nl -3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Google does not automatically mean bad. It is dangerous precedent to blanket ban and remove nuance.

8.8.8.8 is an excellent service, and provides genuine privacy gains. The largest downside being that it is such a massive target for bad-faith and ignorant actors - like the Italian government.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Google does not automatically mean bad

Yes it does.

Google does everything with an angle, and that angle is putting you under surveillance and collecting monetizable data on you.

Google has (or had, maybe?) fantastic products. They're truly great! The translator, the map, Youtube... But they're great for exactly the purpose of luring you into using them, so they can abuse your privacy with them.

Google products are trojan horses: they're irresistible but their true purpose is nefarious.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 28 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

From an expat, congrats to Italy for being at the forefront of digital stupidity y (along with Spain).