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Watched it. The big takeaway for me came with this moment: the crowd starts chanting "Bernie! Bernie!" and Bernie stops them and says "NO! Not Bernie! I got bad news for you-- It's you!"
He's trying to get progressive people to run for office, any office, every office, wherever they can. I think it's probably the best possible play at the moment.
E: credit to Match!!@pawb.social for the correction on the quote
Americans have been so brainwashed by Hollywood, Jesus and superhero stories that they think one hero is going rise up to save them all.
No one is coming to save us. We only have each other.
"Not Bernie! I got bad news for you - it's YOU!"
Thank you!
of course! i was there, it was pretty fresh on my mind. i took public transit there and back, every bus and lightrail was packed with people talking about the rally
Wanted to add that I'm doing my part to answer the call. What about you, reader?
My passive SI won't let me run for any office, but it also allows me to donate to a lot of candidates cause saving money seems pointless. God speed to the younger, more hopeful generations in their attempt to right this ship. As an old millennial, I don't have any fight left in me, but I have money and a decent income.
Hopefully they ditch that dying party called DNC.
34,000 patriots - a salute of respect to everyone in that picture.
Keep going! It's working - people are ready to march, despite what the mass media is reporting:
Link to full article from WagingNonViolence.org
YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE!
DONT STOP!
This. Build an army, 10 million strong! Waves upon waves! Let them try to contend with that!
New Party in the making?
Unless you change how elections work and how politics are funded a new party in the US will always be dead on arrival.
A Bernie - AOC party would face immense hurdles as they lack the infrastructure and the funds the Democratic party has in place. On top of that corporate and oligarchic interests would all make sure to put in enough funding to ensure they will fail.
I love the energy but you have to be realistic. Their best bet would probably be to reform the Democratic Party from the inside.
Not true. The system suppresses third parties. It doesn't stop them. Parties fall in the US just like everywhere else. When was the last time you spoke to a US whig? Or a Jeffersonian Republican? The system in place when those parties fell was exactly the system we have now. It just takes a massive popular effort and a period of severe political turmoil where the country is heavily divided along party lines and a large portion of the country feels entirely disenfranchised (ideally about a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 split between the two parties and people fed up or greater). Happened at the revolution. Happened at the civil war. Happened at the great depression. Guess where we are now? Don't let yourself fall for the lie that the party is eternal. We're on the knive's edge now. It's time to push
Despite what the media wants us to think, both parties are wildly unpopular with their own voters and are primed for collapse. Literally all of the conditions historically needed for social revolution have been met
Don't let yourself fall for the lie that the party is eternal.
Exactly. More people need to let go of the idea that the people cannot affect massive change like this. Of course change will never happen if you don't believe it's possible.
Absolutely agreed. First thing we have to try is to make the party reform themselves. AOC and Bernie have the formula already - the DNC needs a massive push. Like a concerted pressure campaign.
It's not going to be easy but fighting a lawless MAGA with Dems who seem to be stuck in 2012 would be much more difficult. At least now we have some hope because at least these two are out there building the support.
It either happens in the mid-terms or never. If progressives win big, you have a chance of changing DNC leadership.
I think this is probably the only time a whole third party could spring up. The heavy handed approach of oligarchs has caused this.
Reforming the party is the same as making a third one because what you're reforming is oligarch interests. Corpo Dems don't want that. That's calling for a party split
Perhaps if they piggybacked some sort of strike movement and/or cooperated with trade unions (plus focused only on a few seats initially)? That's what the Labour party did in the UK.
I hope you will manage to build an actually-social democrat party.
I think for name recognition and not scaring off Americans who run in fear from the s word, maybe it should be called the Progressive Party?
Fuck their fear. We need to stop molding our identity around what old conservatives think. The youth aren’t scared of socialism, and they’re the people we need to reach. We need a party that will stand up for us, and that starts by not neutering ourselves to appease our opposition.
All splitting the left would accomplish is assuring Republicans never lose again. It's the inevitable result of a First Past the Post voting system.
The more effective way of doing things is to primary all the corporate Dems and reform the Democratic Party from within. AOC did it in her district and there's no reason it can't work in others.
The Republicans are never going to lose again anyway. I am strongly suspicious of the outcome of the last election; there's enough evidence to warrant at least an independent investigation of the voting software in states with abnormal down-ballot voting. The Democrats no longer have a shred of power to pursue any opposition; they have that up when Kamala walked away from the discrepancies and Biden made no effort to investigate in his remaining time.
I do agree on principle that, with FPTP voting, you need to vote strategically for the least bad person who has any chance of winning. The game has changed, now, though. Republicans have stacked the courts and gerrymandered their states, ensuring no chance to investigate attempts to defraud elections. The Democrat party has been utterly impotent in combating this, and demonstrated an appalling incompetence at ensuring the the system remains incorrupted and uninfluenced by foreign interests. They've actively participated in Corporate influence with Citizens United and the Patriot Act. I voted Hillary, but fuck her for supporting that shit.
If there's a next election, and if there's a party with reasonable polling numbers comparable to the D party, I might vote for them. Otherwise, I'll vote D again.
But: the time to split or reform the party is now. Not at the general election, but now, while there's time to lay the groundwork and build momentum. Because overthrowing a dictator is going to take a lot of momentum, and the D party has none of it.
Now's the best time. Maybe even have a few candidates in for the next election cycle.
Dump first past the post voting! We need non-spoiler alternatives
This is PROOF that if Democrats want to Win another Election then they need to go FURTHER RIGHT and have Kamala Harris and Biden back!
Lol
I must be missing something because … how does this matter if we can’t trust the election results?
Which? The recent or future? For the recent, it doesn't matter. It has happened. For the future, it needs to be overwhelming. The opposing candidate to Trump need to win by a yuge margin, something where it is hard for the right wing captured media can lie about. Where people can FEEL it off. Pictures like this validates people's perception of election results.
The right wing owns the media. They’ll lie/manipulate every step of the way to get the person they want elected. People won’t feel the results will be off. Just like the last election.
The previous election set precedent for future ones. At the end, t’s events were empty and he cancelled some events and listened to Ava Maria in others. And voters didn’t question t’s win because of the way the media portrayed him. This is the future of the us.
That's a small army! Keep it up, people! Never let off the pressure!
I'm assuming they counted the people outside the fence too, because there were a bunch of us that decided the line was too long to make it in before he spoke. And so the areas outside the fence looked this way too.
Now do it in DC itself.
I'm unsure if you realize how significant 34,000 people in one state capitol is.
All major protests and organizing in the past century took a decade of this work. This is 3 months into Trump's term.
More of this energy please. Also more of this energy before the election would have been great.
At this point, I'd like to see actual communism to own the reps.
The Party for Socialism and Liberation is starting to grow so you'll see it soon enough.
