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The Trump administration’s proposal to vet social media profiles of green card applicants already legally in the U.S. has been condemned in initial public feedback as an attack on free speech.

Visa applicants living abroad already have to share their social media handles with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, but the proposal under President Donald Trump would expand the policy to those already legally in the country who are applying for permanent residency or seeking asylum.

USCIS said the vetting of social media accounts is necessary for “the enhanced identity verification, vetting and national security screening.”

The agency also said it was necessary to comply with Trump’s executive order titled “Protecting the United States from Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats.”

“In a review of information collected for admission and benefit decisions, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) identified the need to collect social media identifiers (‘handles’) and associated social media platform names from applicants to enable and help inform identity verification, national security and public safety screening, and vetting, and related inspections,” the agency announced on March 5.

President Donald Trump’s administration has proposed vetting the social media handles of immigrants already legally in the U.S. who are applying for green cards or permanent citizenship. The plan has been condemned as a ‘violation of the First Amendment.’


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[–] biegoditch@lemmy.cafe 6 points 11 hours ago

I only have a few lemmy throwaways

[–] AizawaC47@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago

Visa applicants living abroad already have to share their social media handles with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, but the proposal under President Donald Trump would expand the policy to those already legally in the country who are applying for permanent residency or seeking asylum.

Green card, visa applicants, seeking asylum… and then when does it come to actual us American citizens then? Especially those that were born here? Like when will it come to us all?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

With each passing day, the Dark Forest theory of social media seems all the more prescient....

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I don't use social media"

ICE: "Hands behind your back. Stop resisting!"

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So basically he wants to deport legal residents for Luigiposting, making fun of Tesla, or acknowledging that Palestinians and trans people are humans.

Can we please switch to the timeline where Bernie just finished his second term and the Mango Mussolini is in jail for the rest of his miserable life? Pretty please with porn on top?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

1st Amendment means nothing to these fascists

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago

Elon Musk is silent about freedom of speech all of a sudden

[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Green card = legally a Permanent US Resident, protected by us law.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

From a MAGA perspective:

Green card = foreigner, deport them.

I hate talking to them. Because they outright don't think green card people should have rights

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

This is about people applying to get a green card.

Yes, this if for the applicants for a green card, so he basically wants people to invade their privacy if they want to become a permanent citizen.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

He probably got that idea from Kathy Hochul's CCIA, which mandated anyone getting a pistol permit, or semi-auto hunting rifle permit to fork over all social media logins.

That was, of course, knocked down, as a 1A infringement, rightfully so. I'm guessing the SCOTUS will love this version, though.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just another reason to avoid the US like a plague. On the other hand, with bird flu and measles running more or less unchecked in a country with a horrible health system and an antivaxxer at the helm for health, avoiding the US is avoiding the plague.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or just get vaccinated. Zero excuses.

[–] mzesumzira@leminal.space 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vaccines usually aren't a 100% shield. If enough people around you are unvaccinated, you may be at risk too.
Immunity comes in numbers.

That without counting potential mutations in such a favourable environment.
I'd stay out of the US for the foreseeable future.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

They don’t need to be 100%.

We didn’t have a measles problem in this county until the fucking morons stopped vaccinating.

Even if you some how manage to get the virus after getting the vaccine your body is better equipped to deal with the virus by a significant factor.

There is absolutely zero reason to not get vaccinated. Stop being dumb.

[–] mzesumzira@leminal.space 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You've already been answered plenty and I don't think you've been listening anyway, but for what is worth I wasn't advocating against vaccines, I'm on top of mine (covid included) and I'm always very vocally in favour.

I still avoid putting myself in the way of contagion when I can, and right now that includes staying out of the USA or any country that puts antivaxers in places of authority.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

You all are the ones that haven’t been listening.

Get vaccinated and you won’t have issues. It’s really truly that fucking simple.

Learn science.

But no instead you run and hide. You literally are living in fear because of the media. This is the problem with social media.

The real problem is how heavily indoctrinated you are.

Guess who isn’t getting measles right now? That’s right. VACCINATED PEOPLE.

[–] mzesumzira@leminal.space 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You're hopeless and after this I'm done arguing with a wall.

You go learn science.

Being vaccinated doesn't make you 100% safe, that's a fact. Even if it did, when shit is left free to roam in a herd of unvaxed morons it can mutate.

Beside all that, I'm not hiding or running, I'm staying in my country or going places with mostly reasonable people roaming about.
It's really truly that fucking simple.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The only one here hopeless is you since you clearly cannot understand how vaccines work.

It’s YOU that needs to learn science. If you did you wouldn’t be deathly afraid of a virus you’re protected from. And no it doesn’t need to be 100%.

Without the vaccine you could easily die or have life changing reactions to the measles.

With the vax you won’t even notice if you ever picked up the measles. That’s the difference.

Jfc. You sound like you’re from Texas or some shit. Education isn’t your enemy.

[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody in this thread suggested not getting the vaccine. Entire problem is that we are dropping below herd immunity thresholds and that means worse outcomes for the vaccinated and unvaccinatable alike.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And if you get vaccinated it becomes virtually a nonissue with or without herd immunity.

Unless of course you just don’t believe in science.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

virtually a nonissue

Emphasis on virtually. It's not 100%. That's why there is talk about herd immunity. I don't think anyone here is proposing to not get vaccinated or that they don't accept the science [1]. I think everyone here is actually in agreement except for the finer point about efficacy not being 100%.

https://theconversation.com/if-my-measles-shot-was-years-ago-am-i-still-protected-5-questions-answered-115691

One dose of the MMR vaccine protects against measles at 93% efficacy (that is, 93% of individuals will receive the protective benefit of the vaccine), two doses of the vaccine provides 96-97% efficacy.

[1] I much prefer this phrasing than saying someone "believes" in science, since science does not require belief.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I believe (not believe in) science because I can check the steps myself if I'm so inclined. In my field, I often do, it's not just a "could but never do" situation.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

They don’t need to be 100%.

Not as long as almost everyone gets vaccinated.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 55 points 1 day ago

Anyone think about what they used to do before we started making indelible records of all our social activity? Probably ask you some questions and that's it. Yet now they think it's 'vital' that they be able to see everything you ever said to your friends? Bullshit it is, they're just powerhungry petty tyrants.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, to be a greencard holder, you need to run at least one social media account that is active?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

He probably prefers X. His homie has turned it into a hangout for all the other nazi homies.

.......can you tell I don't like the word "homie", and would like to give it a negative vibe?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] aramova@infosec.pub 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Likely considered not adhering to conditions and having their card cancelled.

Legal or not, that's how these fascists work.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

I guess they don't get their green card ?

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Prison most likely

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 21 points 1 day ago

People need to stop centralizating on big tech platforms with direct ties to us government.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If/when this gets to citizens, they’re gonna be so mad about my dissing them on the Internet that Elon is gonna try to build an even bigger spaceship to launch me directly into a Kuiper Belt object.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Honestly? If there are windows, I'd like to join you.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

privacy matters, folks.

[–] Exeous@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What of peoples not in us? He demand see profile to?

You not have account, you not travel to us?

You have account he see all detail of life in eu?

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Looks like you’re not compliant. Off to prison with you.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Start your formal profiles (FB, Insta, LinkedIn, the ones that boomers know about) and post neutral stuff sparingly. Go hog wild on the ones you'll never admit to having. Just use a different email address.

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do not do this. A different email address will not hide anything about what you do online from Meta or xitter or any data broker that sells all your data to them.

The US is going down the path of social credit score like China at this point, anything you say can and will be used against you.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why have more than account on the older platforms? That's not what I mean at all.

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Make any account with any email address on any service that shares data with any data broker and use this account for about a week.

They'll have enough data on you to tie the activity to your actual name and physical devices by the end of the week, usually sooner.

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 12 hours ago

Not if you take steps to prevent that. You'd have to be seriously paranoid to be in the clear, but you can spoof a lot of identifying data and your general activity is almost certainly not enough to pin you down specifically.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not even religious, but I still know about the Whore of Babylon.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't know my mom was Babylonian

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd bet she's a neo-chaldean.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I'd Hittite that.