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I’ve been a programmer for around 20 years now and I can tell you with 100% confidence that this is going to be an absolute fucking disaster. I’ve built project features—not even full projects—that took months. Hell, we launch one on Monday. This would realistically take years, and after seeing how garbage the DOGE site was built, I have zero confidence in the incel team Elon scraped off his Steam friends list.
Yeah, the ideal process is something like this:
I would budget a couple years. Even a smaller codebase would take more than a couple months.
Yeah, this. They need this to be completely test-driven. Build a foundation and build out/finalize in pieces. If they had an actual dev team that knew what they were doing, someone would set them straight. They also need a ton of time to gain an understanding of what every part of the existing codebase is doing.
well years are made of months
If they are genuinely stating months as a realistic timeframe then they either know nothing or are fully aware and this is a deliberate killshot.
This is the typical Elon "Fully self driving soon" of 2016.
No. It is a killshot.
He stated his resentment of social security MULTIPLE times.
Sabotage is the purpose.
First you break government. Once broken, privatize everything on the justification of government not working.
Use propaganda to make people hateful and violent towards election workers. Use to loss of election workers to either have the incumbent administration run elections with "impartiality" or cancel elections altogether.
Cut government funding and make everything unpredictable, causing farmers and business owners to go bankrupt. Have oligarchs buy up everything at rock-bottom pricing, and turn the citizens back into serfs, who will be poor enough to shut up and do as they're told.
Yep, this is the explanation. People are still trying to rationalize "why do this in months, its all gonna collapse!" not understanding that collapse is the actual point.
Its so disheartening how well its working
IMO, only 3 things hold social order together....Laws, Consequences, and Prosperity. The loss of any one of those things will result in some pretty nasty stuff. We're not going to go the way of Germany - at least not as fast....there are simply too many guns in this nation, too much communications capacity, too much ability for quick travel, etc.
Through trump 45, all the lawsuits, hearings, censures, lawsuits, protests, and impeachments were simply seen as "liberal tears." When thenorange voters are directly, and negatively impacted by what they voted for, those liberal tears will a protest of government that will mean something. We're still in the shocked-look, "I thought the other people were the problem" phase of things.
Orange voters are starting to lose their jobs. Orange farmers are starting to have distressed farms, or fields with rotting product waiting for harvest. Stress fractures are beginning to appear with Medicare/Medicaid and SS. Wait until the Farmbill is canceled.
Republican town hall meetings will reach a point where they'll be canceled entirely. They're starting to crack down on the ever-growing population of homeless and people living in their cars. They're starting to crack down on social media negativity towards government. Just wait until conservatives come after the guns.
Our allies are doing their best to help us out by economic means, but they can only do so much, as the threat to our nation is coming from within our nation. Canada is rocking it with their tariffs, being focused squarely on red states.
Things will likely get uglier, but that might just be the way it has to be, before things can improve, and it'll be scary for everyone. The US has been on a downward/rightward spiral since the early 1970s, and we've let it slowly happen to ourselves. Setting things right Will be difficult, and will certainly take more than a few 4-8 year presidential cycles, and people need to understand that.
This is the plan.
How much you want to bet they are going to feed the code base into ai and ask it to re-write it in a different language?
You know what? I’m slightly more confident about the AIs chances compared to his team of 20 year old lead by Big Ballz.
It took the GIMP team 7 years to harden and release 3.0 and it's a fucking image editing program, this guy is actually insane.
On one hand the GIMP project took so long because they have very little resources. They would certainly do it faster with more people.
On the other hand you will probably get a team of inexperienced developers picked for their loyalty to a cokehead. The overall organization has a history of confusing millions for billions and problems working with much more common stuff than COBOL.
I'm convinced this is a genuine attempt at geriatricide and to weed out the weak. If I'm not mistaken, this is something that he and his friends are fond of.
In their AI-centered, techno-feudal utopia, the elderly are just a drain.
As will we all be soon. We are their cattle.
As someone who's actually been part of a team that did this exact migration, it's gonna be shitshow with tons of bugs when the mainframes are decommissioned and the new system goes live.
It's not the wrong move cause the tech is increasingly obsolete but the level of effort will be underestimated.
I think this type of project would take at least five years. A minimum of three to develop, 1 to do internal QA, and at least a fifth as a slow roll out from the smallest states while progressing to the larger. If bugs are revealed during that fifth year, slow the roll while getting them patched up.
It is the sort of thing that requires long term vision, effective governance, and patience. Things that Trump and friends do not possess.
Surprise surprise, that's a similar time frame the last attempt at this gave. Apparently the they never got too far off thr ground because they had to divert resources to help against covid
it is only obsolete if you have a better currently working solution
anything else is a fucking pipe dream
Just toss it all into an Access database. What could go wrong?
As if "accidentally" breaking it during this process would be a bug, not a feature.
"Oh no, we completely broke the SSA, it's all gone. Soorrrrrryyyyyy"
Fr. They’re gonna “accidentally lose” all the records of who was receiving social security and how much they were getting, and they’re gonna make people reapply for it in person, but they have to bring their birth certificate, social security cart, passport, driver’s license with real id, 5 years of tax returns, and probably some new special certificate they start issuing to prove you’re ~~maga~~ a real citizen
What the fuck is the rush!? They should do this, but there is zero reason to rush it unless you want people to suffer needlessly.
It's easy. Rush to "fix" things, but break them in the process. Then tell the American people... look we tried and it's not working! Let's privatize! Moving all of our SS money into hedge funds and wall street scum. Welcome to Trump's America.
Right... That's covered in the "making people suffer needlessly" part.
Oh fuck this.... I can't even look at my own code from a year or two ago and understand what the hell I was doing.
I learned some very basic COBOL back in high school (using punch cards), and that shit was confusing as hell.
There is no possible way that this ancient codebase could be migrated by a bunch of 20 year olds in such a short amount of time.
They're just going to feed it to some LLM and then rely on the slop it outputs.
I'm 100% sure the plan is to let an LLM write the code and not a single human will attempt to understand how it works.
They are using this as cover to say, oops we don't know how much you paid into the plan, so therefore we will give all money to Elon and Wallstreet instead of paying benefits. I hope this is what finally get people to throw this clown out of government.
That's how you know they have nobody with experience there that has their opinion being considered. No one with actual experience in the industry wouldn't do this out of the blue and in a few months "for sure, no delays".
His gremlins can't chatgpt their way through the code so he wants it migrated so he can fuck with it or steal money, probably both.
Excuse me, they said they want to have this done in months? Did I read that article correctly?
I feel like there are a good six very large companies that could give firsthand accounts on why letting Elon Musk touch an important piece of software is a terrible idea.
There are actually companies (very few) that work with migrating large cobol code bases to java, in a automated manner. And it costs a lot, hundreds of millions and it takes a couple of years. They ensure that the cobol and java execution is doing the same thing. So it works, but it's shit. Many do this because it's hard to find cobol developers and the cost of IBM mainframes.
Anyways the code turns into cobol style in Java, horrible and hard work with, would never like to maintain it.
He’ll kill a lot more than just two birds.
Whatever language is chosen will be regarded forever as worse than COBOL, regardless of its actual merits.
My only thought here is that they have no idea how to scope things properly. Anyone who has done rewrites or large ETLs of systems knows that initial scoping is always usually wrong. -- my bet is they drag this out for the rest of the presidency where "done in months" is actually "we're still working on it". And maybe even after so Musk can suckle another government test.
Some of them are teenagers and the rest have the mental and emotional maturity of a teenager.
They have no clue what it takes for such a large project. Even Elon “self-driving by the end of 2014” Musk hasn’t a clue.
A sad fact about programming projects is that you can and have to lie about how long it'll take or cost because nobody will ever accept the truth about those things.
it's a sick world where matthew perry isn't with us but elon still is.