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Has anybody attempted to daily drive linux on their smartphone? like sailfish os, postmarket, librem, etc. I've been getting more interested in them as my pixel 4a is starting to look real old

How was it it? Were you able to run banking apps? battery life? experience with using CJK keyboards?

As far as I can tell, RCS messages are not supported anywhere, in addition to NFC payments (no surprise there). 5G seems also iffy

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago
[–] tiwdll@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

Sadly linux on phones is currently in its infancy. I mean, there is a reason why people use other custom ROMs and not linux. I ended up just switching to lineage os, at least it works

[–] snroh@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

nowhere close to being daily driver material. and I don't mean the esoteric stuff you mention (NFC, 5G, etc.) I mean just normal, everyday stuff, like you turn it on and it works. source: I own the fastest device supported by pmOS and no UI (gnome, phosh, plasma, etc) works even remotely acceptable.

this is a fun project to tinker with and marvel at some choices made but if you're thinking you can switch, that's simply not an item on the menu.

them guys are working on super-complex stuff with no funds to speak of and expecting anything resembling an OS that's developed for close to two decades by the richest corporations in the world isn't realistic.

[–] Sinfaen@beehaw.org 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

sucks to hear, but thanks for your info!!

[–] snroh@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

you should definitely pick up a oneplus 6 or POCO F1 or similar (8 GB RAM), they should be in the $50 range and play around with it. the OS will get better with participation and there's a number of things you can do on there that's downright impossible on Android. I'm just cautioning that it's not a substitute; but neither was Linux not that long ago.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

I think were still pretty far away from a true Linux phone it seems we're in the Linux desktop circa 2002. Unless you're willing to deal with alpha software its still best to flash a ROM.

[–] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

i started to use ubuntu touch on a pixel5 in 2020. did this for almost two years until the phone broke down. it also was my first smartphone. so it opened up new possibilities.

i switched to a google free android after this. honestly i miss ubuntu touch from time to time especialy for its keyboard. i never used banking apps or the like, but even now there is one app i need some workarounds. so yeah. i guess the linux phone is viable for me. i just didn't want to go for second hand hardware this time. and at the time the phone i went for wasn't yet supported by ut.

haven't had a look into the linux phone for a while. but will definetly, the next time i need to switch phones

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ubuntu Touch is such a nice user experience. If it had an Android-tier app ecosystem it'd be a very nice daily driver.

[–] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

back then it didn't have signal-client i could get to work. that is of course a hard no if you work in the us military ...

[–] Sinfaen@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's possible, but maybe with a backup phone. Unfortunately I do have some apps that I need to be able to run which only support iOS and android

[–] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

anbox exists. but yeah. it's not for everyone and every situation.

[–] anon5621@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Anbox is dead,wadroid exist nowdays

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Was in the market for a new phone and was thinking of getting the latest Pine phone, and upon research, I found that like others have stated, it is more of a piece of kit to tinker with and not a daily driver. The OS is still being baked and at the current rate it might take a few years before it is as responsive and as useful as Android is day in, and day out. There is just no contest. Which was a bit disappointing as I actually though the OS was far more developed.

I do hope that progress is made, but, if you need a phone that works well, then stick with Android for now. Hardware on latest Pine is better than on the first phone but still Mid, at best, and it is not cheap for the hardware you get.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

!linuxphones@lemmy.ca and !linuxphones@lemmy.ml aren't the busiest communities but there do seem to be a few people giving it a proper go

[–] TheMightyCat@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

I've used a pinephone pro with arch and postmarket.

It works, but you really have to love linux to use it as a daily driver.

My banking app (bunq) worked using way droid.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago

A lot of banking apps don't even run on a custom Android ROM and it gets worse. Haven't tried CJK keyboards on PostmarketOS so wondering that as well.

I am very interested in hearing first hand accounts as well. Specifically Librem that one looks cool.

[–] rikudou 1 points 2 days ago

SFOS is very good in that regard, especially on the official devices with Android Support. It mostly boils down to how much you need the various Android apps and whether they work. The biggest issue seems to be banking apps. I'm lucky that my works, but many of them don't.

RCS does not work, AFAIK. No idea about CJK, but I think Japanese is officially supported. NFC payments don't work. No idea about 5G.

I daily drived my Xperia 10 III for over a year, it was fine, though there were things that needed fixing. Those seem to be fixed now, so I'm thinking of daily driving it again.