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    [โ€“] andros_rex@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    What scares me is that Iโ€™ve tried to hook multiple โ€œgeekierโ€ teenagers on Linux, and they arenโ€™t interested. Even the math-y ones donโ€™t know the difference between an operating system and a browser. My main computer is Arch with xmonad and it disturbs and confuses them.

    We have a lost generation when it comes to computers. Lots of the little geeks that would have been playing around in the registry or learning powershell 15 years ago are so stuck in walled gardens that they donโ€™t even know thereโ€™s a world outside of them.

    [โ€“] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

    To be fair, Windows really hasn't pushed Powershell all that much. They haven't even fully ported over all of Command Prompt's commands. You have to prefix those with .\ (I think; it's been a while) in order to get them to run even though the error message that comes up if you don't include that will tell you, "Hey, there's a command named this. Prefix it with that to use it."

    Now, instead of simply porting everything over, they have one app (named Terminal) running both programs.

    [โ€“] harmsy@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    I have no idea what CLI is. I just use Mint and don't put much thought in.

    [โ€“] letsgo@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

    It's an abbreviation for Command Line Interface To Objects Residing In System. A lot of male programmers can't find it.

    [โ€“] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    I think it's the Linux equivalent of Windows Command Prompt.

    [โ€“] Hupf@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

    No, it's the general term, as opposed to GUI (graphical user interface). Linux Shell, Windows command prompt and Powershell are all CLI

    [โ€“] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Windows Command Prompt/Powershell is a CLI, Linux's is called Terminal

    Command Line Interface - an interface method to your computer using lines of text

    [โ€“] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

    Huh. Never realized that. I've only ever heard Linux users call it CLI, so I just assumed it was what most Linux users called the Terminal. And I assumed Terminal was the generic name since Mac also has a Terminal app.

    Also, side note: it's called Terminal on Windows now, too. Windows unified their Powershell and Command Prompt programs into a single app (on the surface, at least). You can open either Powershell or Command Prompt using tabs in the app.

    [โ€“] harmsy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

    Oh, that thing. I have used that in the past, but it's been a while since I've needed to.

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    [โ€“] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago

    Grew up with ms-dos. Spent half my career in telnet and ssh consoles.

    When I just want to play Balatro at the end of a long day fuck any system that requires more than click click to get me in.

    That's why I'm switching to Linux when windows 10 is no longer supported because fuck win 11 and the amount of regedits it's gonna take to get that working.

    [โ€“] oo1 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    It's open source, they can just make their own distro.

    [โ€“] Jarix@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

    And that attitude is why Linux is struggling to gain market cap imho.

    Yes they can, but maybe we need to embrace those who arent tech saavy?

    Saying if you dont like it, go do your own thing is not very welcoming.

    We should encourage people to create their own distribution, but maybe welcome people with open arms first, guide them to a flavour that works for them, and then encourage them to learn how to make it exactly what they want

    Edit: ~~Market capture~~ > market share

    [โ€“] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Market cap? Which stock symbol is it? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    [โ€“] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Remember to build everything from source

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    [โ€“] klu9@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

    A meme is a great way to avoid their fury; Lynx doesn't show images.

    [โ€“] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    An at least superficial understanding of the cli is an essential part of using linux. If you don't ever want to use a cli, what are you doing pursuing linux? Do you just want a free version of windows? Go pirate windows.

    [โ€“] accideath@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I pursue Linux because I want a FOSS OS and its privacy and security benefits, not because I want to tinker and learn the CLI.

    I mean, I do want to tinker and I have learned the CLI but it's not why I pursue Linux.

    [โ€“] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    I guess I should have written "If you want to never have to use a cli" instead of "If you don't ever want to use a cli", as I didn't mean you have to want to use a cli to use linux. I meant that one has to be OK with using a cli, accepting of the fact that they have to use a cli.

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