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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 87 points 6 days ago (10 children)

This is exactly why the 2nd amendment exists.

Those of you who have served in the military and swore an oath to protect us from domestic enemies, please seriously consider honoring your oath before the rest of us have to do it for you.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 35 points 6 days ago (14 children)

when ice is coming to get me, no amount of weaponry will save me, all I'll do is take some nazis with me.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I want to be very clear here. If they take you, at A MINIMUM, they will beat you, torture you, SA you, and deny you civil rights and human rights. At worst, you die. You want all these slack jawed jackasses that won't raise holy hell about the government already doing this to immigrants, you're dead anyway. ''ICE kills US citizen'' is a much stronger headline than ''Trump says he will do this to citizens'' additionally when the ICE agents have to deal with the fact that ''just following orders'' includes a high chance of death, they might question the orders.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

As others have said, if they take you to a second location, you could either die or end up in a gulag in another country, which is probably as good as being dead.

May as well fight to the death. Make them pay for it. If you don't you could end up wishing you had another opportunity to.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Exactly this. The fear of torture to death would make me fight back when they bust in. This reminds me to start carrying and leaving easy access to the shotgun at home

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, not true? ICE is a bunch of fatass fascist sympathizers that get their rocks off abusing their authority. If they try to kidnap you, they are not going to expect you to be armed and dangerous. They are not going to be prepared for you to fight back.

You'll have to flee immediately after, because they'll send more agents when the first turn up dead, but it at least gives you a chance.

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[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

Melt the ICE

[–] Sizing2673@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Absolutely true. They will also make shit up and deface your name anyways.

Even if you were found innocent and released, the entire world would believe the US government and the US government would call you MS-13 or pedophile

They wouldn't correct that mistake. And you would be hard to even find a job, plus you would probably have cultists coming to kill you

That is if they'd still don't just send you to the concentration camps and have you murdered like they have done so far

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Wow, nothing like a shove forward as you step back right? I got news for you buddy, this isn't the kind of thing just a few people can fix. The country actually elected him. We need to build a movement to fight this, to prevent the country from just electing the next one.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Wasn't the Electoral College also supposed to serve that purpose?

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 53 points 6 days ago (27 children)

Buy a gun and if they come for you kill as many as possible

This is where our country is heading

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

buy a gun

Yes you reading this. Even if you're white.

Arm yourself.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

And organize, they can and do pick out people who are alone, as they are cowards. If there are 10 of you walking, armed, they are less likely to fuck around

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

This is the correct approch. I can't stress this enough, when it costs ICE their lives, and the headlines are "12 citizen killed by ICE" then people will stop sitting on their hands like this is nothing. Don't let them put you in a ghetto, don't let them put you in a labor camp or a death camp, CALL THEIR HAND EVERY TIME, If you let them take you, you're dead anyway.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I would go absolutely feral. Ripping their throats out with my teeth and snapping any small bone I can grab.

This goes for anyone being kidnapped in my general vicinity as well. If I see that shit, it turns out that that is a good day to die. I will do it with glee.

Watch me laugh with their blood running down my face.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

This is the way, this is real shit. I too would go absolutely animal for my loved ones and myself, go berserk.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Yup.

I am anti-gun and always have been and still believe a nation with more guns is going to have more death and generally be less safe.

But it is absolutely time to arm yourself.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Time to buy a gun. The left needs to arm themselves fuckin' yesterday.

Don't think that they won't come for you. The law is powerless to protect you from having your rights trampled on under this administration. All it takes is for King Trump to declare you a gang member and they have carte blanche authority to disappear you off the street.

[–] H4CK3RN4M3D4N63R570RM@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Was yesterday too late? I feel like one person having a gun hasn't been able to do anything meaningful with it for a long time. Except maybe defend themselves from a dumb home invader.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

Donald Trump is literally, yes, using the correct expression: literally -- a homegrown criminal.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."

Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He is literally begging to be put down like a rabid animal

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[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

PP is talking about saying "Fuck You" to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. And so it begins in Canada. Trump said exactly what he planned to do, and his followers were like, “I love this guy, he tells it like it is”. It is frightening that there are so many Canadians following this POS. 90,000,000 people didn’t vote in the US. Don’t be like them! VOTE VOTE VOTE 🇨🇦 ✊

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

if things get any shittier, this administration is going to have to stop people at the border in the opposite direction

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We'll be the new East Germany.

I wonder how long before states start considering secession again.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The sooner Blue States leave the Conservative Centipede, the better. I don't view conservatives to be fellow Americans anymore.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I wonder how shitty this administration will have to get before enough people get motivated to take some significant action to stop it?

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I wonder what kind of payoff Bukele is getting from Trump to keep someone that Bukele admits was wrongly sent to El Salvador but he refuses to return him.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've been warning everyone, people won't fucking hear it. Disgusting.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

remember during george w bush when people were upset that they were training the national guard to arrest us citizens? they had actors yelling stuff like “im a us citizen! you can’t arrest me! this violates the constitution!” and stuff like that?
….
that sure was scary….
i think it comes down to grief and denial… people are very unable to cope with the idea that this could ever be real.
“oh congress will stop him though, oh the supreme court wouldn’t let that happen… no way the military would go through with that… americans all have guns, they’d never do that”.

also noteworthy that roger stone was caught talking about how they need a plan to take guns from all the leftists… by calling them enemies of the state….

it’s sad but ignorant americans are victims too… id say victims of brainwashing as well.
people who denied it don’t need a “ha i told you so!”, they need a, “what what did you say you’d do if it ever DID happen… because we’re here now in spite of our best hopes and doubts”.

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[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Bring it you orange fuck.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (14 children)

I really wonder how all the protest voters feel about all of this. Not what they’d say they feel, because we’ve all seen their smug and entitled responses- no, what I want to know is; how they actually and honestly feel about all of this.

Because even though I voted, I’ve seriously thought about it. I’ve tried to put myself in the shoes of someone who has EVERY reason to ask themselves if all of this was worth the entitlement-driven single-issue excuse to avoid doing the bare minimum it would have taken to hold on to the last shred of our democracy- to avoid having to have participated in what might have been America’s last election.

Yeah. I’m fucking angry.

And I’m not yet ready to forgive the assholes that helped make this happen. And part of the reason is that while I’ve seen post after post and meme after meme of even the conservatives questioning their reasoning in voting for that corrupt little felonious mouth-breathing gremlin, I haven’t see even ONE of these third party/non-voters so much as make a peep in the general vicinity of remorse.

If they want to talk about rallying behind a cause- as we see them doing here so many times, they should first start by fessing up and own their shit, because in an adult world, anyone that can admit their mistakes proves they have the honesty, maturity, and humility it takes to deserve trust.

Otherwise- I see no reason to trust them any further than I would a conservative.

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