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We dont elect presidents to be law enforcement, thats what the courts are for. Its literally guarenteed in the constitution: the right to a fair and public trial, legal counsel, and the right to know the accusations against you. Last I checked, its still legal to get tattoos.

I literally don't care if he was a gang member. He still has a right of due process.

It doesn't fucking matter dickhead, he's entitled to due process, as are all citizens or non-citizens residing or visiting America.

the left hand has knuckle tattoos of a marijuana leaf, a smiley face, a cross, and a skull, which the Trump administration says are symbols for "M", "S", "1", and "3," respectively

Except the gang is famous for literally tattooing MS-13 all over their bodies.

Bruh do a 5 sec search. Its insane how obvious the ms13 tattoos are.

Is that a real photo of his knuckles? I mean, the MS13 is clearly added on and likely a "decoded" read of the pot leaf, smiley face, cross, and skull tattoos that are clearly in the knuckles (very dubious on that symbolism) but are this even Kilmer's actual knuckles? Or just a random photo of someone else?

Edit: yes, those are his knuckles as you can see pictures of him talking to that senator.

I strongly doubt, based on a quick search, that those are in any way related to a gang. They are evidence of drug culture (gasp!) but I've yet to see any evidence that any gang uses those.

Edit 2: it appears MS13 members literally just get tattoos that say "MS13" and don't attempt to hide it. It's a proof of loyalty thing, apparently.

And Trump is probably dumb enough to believe that the characters "MS13" which were added to the photo are actually part of his tattoo.

As discussed elsewhere, the Proud Boys are cowards who hide their affiliation in symbology, while members of MS13 have always had direct and unmistakable tattoos. Since Trump is so deeply ingrained with the Proud Boys, it is believed they are the ones who offered up this laughable symbolic meaning of the tattoos with the theory that since they hide who they are, everyone else must do this also.

If you want to pretend like there's any hidden symbology to the tattoos, why try so hard to make something that isn't there? Let's just stick with the first letter of each tat: MSCS, which could also stand for Master of Science in Computer Science -- an aspiring goal for someone who is trying to make a better life for his family. The point is, anybody can make shit up out of nothing and come up with something that "verifies" the answer you wanted, but that interpretation is still meaningless.

I see two hands of a man who should definitely be removed from the United States

Are they trying to say that the symbols are code for ms 13?

Does Trump think the letters added to the photo are part of the tattoo? His words suggest he does.

Whether he's part of ms-13 or not is irrelevant. If the government has such solid evidence, then he could surely stand trial. The character of the victim isn't important. The complete disrespect of the constitution, the courts, and thus rule of law is what's important.

Why does he have a FIFA trophy?

Is that the 8 pointed star of chaos? I have no idea why he thinks it's an M but was this guy a 40k fan?

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