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[–] anonproxy00@lemm.ee 30 points 5 days ago

joe 100% holds some not insignificant amount of blame for all this bs.

he IS a monster, it IS to late for him.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago

Joe, you're already the monsters.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 5 days ago

Too late for that.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes but this is clearly him trying to walk back some of his alt right views so that he can get back a portion of sane fans.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

And how long do you suppose his "walk back"will last?

[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Better late than never, at least. And with Rogan specifically I can actually believe he supported Trump out of stupidity in the first place.

Plus, a middle aged masculine presenting white dude actually admitting that he was wrong/decieved about something is unironically a desperately needed role model rn. As somebody who previously had absolutely no respect for the man, he's earned at least a sliver of my respect.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

How a man can go from supporting Bernie to supporting Trump just has to come down to vibes bullshit. Which is stupid but also informative

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

Ah so the orange’s actions finally hit Rogan’s bank account ehh

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nah he’s just trying to sound impartial. He was at UFC practically giving Trump a handy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Keeping a mind so open that the brain just slides right out.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

To phrase this carefully: I've been saying that the people behind the scenery, who are actually in charge of this current regime, are going to need a new "face" when the current, orange one dies. Somebody brash, charismatic, well-versed in keeping people entertained, and their attention on himself. Somebody just like, oh, say, Joe Rogan.

I'm not predicting that Rogan will be the next "face" of MAGA, but this move is consistent with what I would expect if he were positioning himself to be it: Hedging his bets, putting a little bit of distance between himself and the administration so as to be outside of the blast radius in case public sentiment turns, but supporting it enough to be a credible successor in case public sentiment holds.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Somebody just like, oh, say, Joe Rogan.

This feels like the speculation I saw about Tucker Carlson or Mark Zuckerburg running for office. I think it misses how much of Rogan's popularity is artificially inflated, how much of his job is merely to market crypto and blue chew, and how much he wouldn't actually want the job of running for office to begin with.

These bloated egos inevitably do put their toes in the water. But trying to separate a few million dipshits from their wallets is a radically different task than trying to win a plurality of the 150M+ voting poll (heavily weighted across states full of people who don't listen to podcasts). You're going to send Joe Rogan to Iowa to eat a stick of fried butter while telling a gaggle of fifty year old hog farmers how much he loves soybeans and he's going to do a worse job of it than Rick Perry.

this move is consistent with what I would expect if he were positioning himself to be it: Hedging his bets, putting a little bit of distance between himself and the administration so as to be outside of the blast radius in case public sentiment turns

The sentiment won't turn. It's the same sentiment that's been building since the Bush Administration, and one of the big reasons the GOP fell apart in 2006 and then again in 2012 and 2020. The GOP can't afford to be moderate on immigration, on social politics, or on social welfare programs. Because as soon as you stop delivering the red meat, the knives come out.

Republicans aren't going to run a milquetoast moderate podcaster face for the party like Rogan the next time the top spot opens up. Look at the line up in 2024 against Trump - Nikki Hailey, Ron DeSantis, Asa Hutchenson, and Vivek Ramaswamy are the party's future. These are the people piling into the governorships and congressional seats under Trump and they're going to be the pool that dictates his replacement.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

You cannot turn into monsters if you already are ones.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

What a spineless two-faced coward. He constantly attempts to cover up his fascism by saying non-committal stuff like this.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Joe's stocks went down, hasn't it?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

no taksies backsies, you are responsible for turning many men into trumpers.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

he is just hedging his bets.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

You already are

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Yea! It could happen any day now! Any…day.. now…

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

That’s not turning on him. That’s using kid gloves to softly not be seen agreeing with him.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Joe Rogan should do 20 years in prison

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

lol maybe stop abusing performance enhancing drugs first so you don’t look like a monster.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Shrek is not a monster.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 5 days ago

Ooooo the mouthpieces see the wall coming

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago
[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 226 points 1 week ago

Joe you helped us become this monster you fucking idiot.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 119 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Why do people listen to this idiot? His stance changes when the wind blows. The "wind" being a threat to his profit.

I mean, I don't think Rogan is "Evil," or even little "e" evil, but for Pete's sake, he's just a meathead dudebro who has let fame and money go to his head. He should go back to just smoking weed and talking about aliens.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 6 days ago

Unprincipled self-serving assholes ARE evil. If you spread dangerous words that end up motivating people into harming others, YOU are at fault.

That is why we shouldn't tolerate hateful talk towards innocent people, even when "he's just joking!", "she doesn't really mean it!". Enough little words together make an avalanche, and his words are not even little.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

He is the embodiment of why they didn’t let just anyone be on TV

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Some More News did an excellent segment on Rogan. One of the interesting things they noted is Rogan's tendency to stay in opposition to the running political power. This checks out

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

I would have agreed a decade ago. He's evil now though.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Recklessly endangering the health of an entire democratic system for short term monetary gain is definitely little e evil.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I stand corrected. 👍

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[–] railcar@midwest.social 95 points 1 week ago (7 children)

He deserves all the flak, but we need to accept and encourage people who are changing their mind or we're all fucked.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

He isn't changing his mind. This is part of his strategy and has always been so. This is to please the "but he also invites non-right wing guest" crowd. He is and will remain a right wing influencer who carries a large responsibility for the current situation with his right wing propaganda platform.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

"I'm sorry. You all tried to tell me, and I didn't listen. I was wrong"

We can talk about forgiveness and acceptance when he gets to this point.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I'm not gonna look at gift horse in the mouth. Let's stick to criticizing what he does, not what you believe he is thinking.

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