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Well you see, we've tried rationalizing with them, reasoning with them, spread some logic to them, educating them .etc

And they still kept doing the same thing anyways. They were the ones who told us we were liars, we're apart of some "Deep State", we're "Traitors" and all sorts of insults and untrue slander.

Where have you been?

People on the east coast tend to think of civil war in terms of of north south instead of east west. Gavin Newsom straight up declared California a "Nation State" last time Scump tried pushing California around, and he's right California is the world's fourth longest economy. As a Coloradans, I'm feeling less and less rapport with east coast shenanigans. Everyone east of the Mississippi can take their north south shit and shove it. Colorado's a headwaters state with more oil in our shale that the whole of Saudi Arabia. What the fuck do we need with Alabama?

I live in Trump country. A lot of these people are living in an alternate reality where trans people and immigrants are lurking behind every corner to take their kids and women and the economy is in shambles but in a way that only impacts white middle class Americans.

The conservative mind sees any kind of disloyalty as immoral.

I think there's a few reasons.

• People are tuned into propaganda. I get exposed to it once in a while and it's abhorrent. Arguing, yelling, and just a deluge of lies. It pretends to be important. It pretends to be news. But really, it's more like 1984's 2 minutes of hate diluted down and stretch out so people can get their fill whenever they want (or for older people, just consume it constantly).

• For many less politically-involved people, they are still emotionally and culturally tied to their political "team". For many, it's easier to just go along with the shifts in the party than to change identity.

• People are lazy/busy/uninterested. People generally don't want to learn about economics, history, politics, sociology, psychology, etc. This leaves a huge hole for someone like Trump to say and do the things he's been doing without his uneducated base calling BS. I took 2 100-level economics electives long ago for my degree and saw right through his tariff lies because this stuff isn't that complicated.

• Messaging. The right-wing messaging is mostly half-truths and all-out lies, but they are incredibly effective at getting their messaging out and believed. A lot of it is just repetition, repetition, repetition. The left really needs to get their shit together. I'm not looking for propaganda like the right is doing, but the Dems started loosing so badly because the right would grab an issue like a rabid Chihuahua and just not let go. Benghazi is a perfect example. Fix the messaging -- keep is simple and just repeat it forever.

Wait a week or 2 until the empty shelves hit the market

A critical lack of empathy for their fellow man. Americans have had the concept of "fuck you got mine" so engrained into them, couple this with their overall lack of intelligence and you can see how a grifter promising them everything won the nation.

Hatefulness

I mean it's hard to outdo Wilson in the racist president race but there are literal slave owners and Andrew Jackson in the running, you realize?

We can only hope he experiences a moment of clarity just before he dies.

40% approval? As a non-american, I'm actually curious what kind of propaganda is still convincing these people.

His goal is to stay out of prison, which he's 100% successful at.

Why do you think Vance is doing all the traveling and trump plays golf all day? He doesn't care. He got a get out of jail free card already.

JOSH So, if we're lucky, foreign aid's going to be funded for another 90 days at 75 cents on the dollar. No one who's ever said they wanted bipartisanship has ever meant it. But the people are speaking. Because 68% think we give too much in foreign aid, and 59% think it should be cut.

WILL You like that stat?

JOSH I do.

WILL Why?

JOSH Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."

The West Wing, Guns and Butter

Think of stupid people as basically AI. They just copy what's around them and approximate an opinion without really understanding any of it. They're just followers.

They follow along when they're surrounded by Democrats, and then they move somewhere else and they're surrounded by Republicans, and they still follow along. They don't publicly renounce their old beliefs because they haven't actually put that much thought into it. It's all surface level.

You always find some weird, contradictory results in polls. Like people who say taxes shouldn't be raised, but also think there should be a higher inheritance tax. This happens so frequently that the lack of weird results is evidence of falsified poll.

those are probably mostly maga turds who think they're secret agents or sumsuch by registering democrat and voting in their primaries.