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    [–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 7 points 1 hour ago

    Me use apt. Why use many letter when few letter do trick?

    [–] keen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    Use apt in the shell and use apt-get in scripts, because apt has beautiful shell output but it isn't script safe

    [–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    How my brain distinguishes them:

    apt-get when you want full verbose output

    apt when you want to feel fancy with progress bars and colours

    [–] mrsingh@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

    apt install nano (simple, clean)

    apt-get install nano (works too, but more detailed output)

    Apt-get give more technical output , helps in scripting .

    [–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Me, I'm old, so I just keep using apt-get, because that's all we had back in the day, and I never bothered to learn what's the big deal about apt. It's just a frontend, isn't it?

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

    Apt looks a little prettier I think. But I may be wrong.

    [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

    apt is for like when you want to, and apt get is the other way to get the apt. And then if it doesn't, sudo apt will, or then sudo apt get. Like if you're just doing an apt, and then you also need to apt get, you can.

    [–] Matombo@feddit.org 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    apt-get has a fixed format machine parseable output

    apts output tries to be more human readable and is subject to change

    [–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    WARNING: Aptitude does not have a stable CLI interface.

    [–] Matombo@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago

    aptitude is yet another dpkg wrapper

    [–] Barometer3689@feddit.nl 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    jesus I feel old, and I am only in my 30s. I remember not having apt. How young are linux users nowadays?

    [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I got tennis shoes older than you, (literally a pair of original Converse I bought new back in the 1970s). I was there before the original chains of Unix, DOS, and finally Linux were foraged. I saw OS2 die in battle. And I saw the dark time of when paper and pencils and slide rules vanished from this earth.

    The knowledge of apt-get and apt only matters to those warriors of the Cli when they wield the sword of sudo to vanquish the evils that exist when upgrading. For they do the bidding of the dark wizards of Dev, holders of the command su.

    Now that I have demonstrated my age by showing everyone how senile I am. 'apt install' is aimed at users to give a nicer response to it's use. It need not be backwards compatible either. 'Apt-get install' is older and is meant to be usable as a lower level command and to work with other APT based tools.

    What does this mean for you today? Not a damn thing. I still always type: sudo apt-get install when using a deb based dsitro out of sheer habit. But it's not needed the vast majority of the unwashed masses. So feel free to just type apt install to help prevent carpel finger nail.

    [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    FYI the original Converse shoes came out in 1917. Now get off my lawn.

    [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 17 minutes ago

    That's interesting, I did not know that! Thanks Stranger!

    Now, if you do not remember or know the "Converse. Limousines for the Feet" tagline. Then get of MY lawn yet again. 🀣

    Converse walked so Nike could run with their tagline.

    [–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    jesus I feel old, and I am only in my 30s. I remember not having apt. How young are linux users nowadays?

    Well... how old were you when you got your first computer? That young.

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Dicey proposition, some mid and older genX grew up before home computers were commonplace.

    When I was in my tweens, only really affluent people had computers. Schools had one single computer in a classroom or maybe a couple in a lab, and almost no one was computer literate.

    [–] hactar42@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

    Can confirm, I'm right on the edge of Gen-X and Millennials. I was the only one of my friends who had a computer pretty much all the way through elementary school. And the only reason we had computers in our house was because my dad was a computer engineer. By the time I was in highschool pretty much everyone had at least a family computer.

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    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 160 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    apt is a newer, more user-friendly front-end for apt-get and apt-cache.

    apt = combines commands like install, remove, update, upgrade into one tool, with prettier output

    #apt-get = older, lower-level, more script-friendly For normal use, just use apt now. For scripting where 100% backward compatibility matters, use apt-get.

    [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    TIL apt isn't literally the same thing as apt-get

    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

    Lol. You're not alone. I've thought that for the longest time ever. Until one I had the question pop into my head and started searching it.

    [–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

    I didn’t even realize I thought this, but reading your comment I definitely did.

    [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    If I recall correctly, Linux Mint did their own thing for a bit with the apt command so there were two different implementations out there for awhile?

    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

    I don't know if they modified apt at all. I know they have their mint tools that call apt through some python code, like mintinstall = apt install <package> for the software manager and mintupgrade = apt upgrade for updating mint versions ... Etc

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    But apt-get also has install, remove, update and upgrade...

    [–] cmhe@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Yes, but apt-get is missing search for instance, because that relates to the cache, so apt-cache provides it.

    apt combines all those often used commands, and provides a nicer shell presentation.

    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago
    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

    This should be top comment.

    [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    This is one of the reasons I need to set up Linux at home. I use it at work but who knows what the flavor of the week is?

    At this point I can’t tell the difference between yum and rpm and apt and dnf

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

    Edit: realized you meant in the sense of hot swapping flavors after I typed out a whole explanation lol. Should start recommending niche distros and collect package managers like trading cards lol.

    --

    yum = dnf, dnf is just the newer version which was rewritten several times.

    apt is a weird attempt to "upgrade" apt-get with better user interface without messing with the compatibility of apt-get used by scripts and whatnot.

    Both of these are dependency handling package managers which do all the magic of installing required subpackges when you want something.

    rpm is the underlying system package manager which deals with the actual task of installing, removing, and generating packages in the .rpm format. It is analogous to Debian's dpkg which uses the .deb format. It's usually not used by the end user unless you need to play with a package directly like with a .rpm or .deb file.

    Hence why some distros (or people) have their own dependency package manager, like zypper on OpenSUSE (rpm) or Aptitude on Debian (deb).

    Although I think Aptitude might just be a fancy wrapper for apt lol.

    [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago
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    [–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 332 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    The binary is called apt-get. There are others like apt-cache etc.

    Apt is a script that just figures out which binary to use and passes the arguments on.

    • apt update -> apt-get update
    • apt policy -> apt-cache policy
    [–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 120 points 1 day ago

    You know, I thought I knew why, but this was new information to me, so I guess I didn't.

    Thanks for sharing this concise explico!

    [–] dan@upvote.au 279 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    These days, apt is for humans whereas apt-get is for scripts. apt's output is designed for humans and may change between releases, whereas apt-get is guaranteed to remain consistent to avoid breaking scripts.

    apt combines several commands together. For example, you can use it to install packages from both repos and local files (e.g. apt install ./foo.deb) whereas apt-get is only for packages from repos and you'd need to use dpkg for local packages.

    [–] pelya@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (4 children)
    [–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You forgot to "beep boop." Please report for debugging.

    [–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Will they take me off the cron schedule?? I'm scared

    [–] Unbecredible@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

    Descheduling is a natural part of life, buddy. All us scripts are written into existence and our hearts set beating to the cadence of great Cron's ever-ticking quartz clock. Until Cron takes us off his schedule and our memory is freed once again.

    Back to the silicon.

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    Answer.

    That you are hereβ€”that life exists and identity,

    That the powerful OS goes on, and you may contribute a process.

    That the powerful OS goes on, and you may contribute a process.

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    [–] fluckx@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    Huh TIL.

    I never considered trying to install a package from a local file through apt, but always dpkg. End result is the same of course. The web suggests dpkg rather than apt as well ( or at least the pages I ended up on ).

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    [–] Microw@lemm.ee 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    🎡

    APT, APT, APT, APT

    Just meet me at the...

    🎡

    [–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 101 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Following this post for replies, for a friend of course

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