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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ugh, do we really need Trump + Pandemic again?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's entirely avoidable, if only Trump would have actually learned something from his first term and actually funded research and prevention teams. Sadly, he only has the foresight to see how cutting those programs saves the US Govt. a penny now, and not the wisdom to see how that panny would have been money well spent if it prevented us from having to spend thousands on recovery efforts.

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[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

do we really need Trump + Pandemic again

If there were any justice in the universe, he would have died from the virus he unleashed on the world

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Don't worry, I'm sure Trump and his cultists will fuck this one up for us too.

[–] Binky@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 days ago

I look forward to our next pandemic…

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 90 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I just hope it kills a lot more Nazi antivax idiots this time

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 58 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There will probably be some slant in that direction, but there'll be a much bigger slant towards killing the elderly, the immunocompromised, those who can't afford medical care and time off, etc. As usual.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 224 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Scientists: we have some good news and some bad news on the pandemic front.

Public: Gimme the good news first.

Scientists: We're going to solve the housing crisis really quickly.

X/

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

There could be 1000000 empty houses for every homeless person and capital would still be murdering people who tried to squat.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

They have to find you first. 1 in 1,000,000? I like them odds.

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 59 points 6 days ago

That's dark. +1

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If we all die from the bird flu can we die after collectively doing the chicken dance?

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 148 points 6 days ago (6 children)

"Top virologists raise alarm" ..... that didn't help last time. People and government won't take notice or want to take action until we see people with blood coming out of their eyes and dying in the streets, and even then, everyone will be more worried about the economy than in the body count.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

at least worrying about the economy would be an improvement to just worrying about their personal freedom

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They'll just ask the elderly to die again

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[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 110 points 6 days ago (7 children)

In the U.S., RFK has promised to personally consume every dead bird he finds on the side of the road.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The fucknut RFK will tell the AmeriKans to drink fish tank cleaner or bleach and shove a UV light down their throats. When this things slams into the USA, Krasnov will continue to fail.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago (12 children)

I'm ok with this.

We've known about vaccines, germ theory, and virus for quite some time now. If they want to kill themselves because they choose to not follow the science, so be it. I'm tired of having this conversation with the wilfully and proudly ignorant tomato soup brained infants.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

RFK jr. Isn't just anti-germ theory. He doesn't even follow miasma theory... he follows something even older and more stupid: terrain theory. The idea that you get sick BECAUSE you were unhealthy and not the other way around. That diseases are opportunists looking for malnourished or lazy or weak individuals (weak by their own choices) than just something that can happen to anyone.

You know those girls who died of measles? He insisted it happened because they were malnourished. No amount of evidence presented by doctors could convince him otherwise.

Basically we have an absolutely insane conspiracy theorist who has the medical beliefs of a medieval quack in charge of US health.

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[–] Chestnut@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Having a vaccine, and getting it sufficiently wide deployed under a known antivaxxer "health" minister are two different kinds of shoes.

And: The virus is currently trying to overcome species barriers, which might reduce an existing vaccine less useful. AFAIK you need a different vaccine for poultry than for cows, and some infections have made it across to humans, also AFAIK, from cows.

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[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 91 points 6 days ago (10 children)

I have a buddy who is a virologist. He sends me shit all the time about bird flu. The gain of function tests on it is wild. Also, note that we have seen this shit coming since 2012

  1. Fouchier, R.A.M., et al. (2012). "Airborne transmission of influenza A/H5N1 virus between ferrets."

Published in: Science

Summary: Demonstrated that a small number of mutations could allow H5N1 to spread via respiratory droplets in ferrets.

Link: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1213362

  1. Herfst, S., et al. (2012). "Airborne transmission of influenza A/H5N1 virus between ferrets."

Published in: Science (companion to Fouchier’s work)

Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22723413/

  1. Imai, M., et al. (2012). "Experimental adaptation of an influenza H5 HA confers respiratory droplet transmission to a reassortant H5 HA/H1N1 virus in ferrets."

Published in: Nature

Summary: Kawaoka’s lab showed that reassortment of H5N1 with pandemic H1N1 genes could enable airborne spread in ferrets.

Link: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10831

  1. Zhang, Y., et al. (2013). "H5N1 hybrid viruses bearing 2009/H1N1 virus genes transmit in guinea pigs by respiratory droplet."

Published in: Science

Summary: Chinese researchers found that hybrid viruses combining H5N1 with H1N1 pandemic genes could spread between mammals.

Link: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1243362

  1. National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity (NSABB) Reports (2012).

Summary: Initially recommended redacting details of GoF studies due to bioterrorism concerns, later reversed.

Link: https://osp.od.nih.gov/biotechnology/nsabb-reports/

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 71 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, and this time masks will be illegal.

[–] Shootingstarrz17@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They can pry them out of my cold, dead hands.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, I think that’s the likely scenario

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[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 66 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Future historians will say that Donald the dumb was a plague spreader.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Future historians? I like your optimism.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

don't forget RFK Jr who suggested that people drink raw milk amidst an H5 breakout

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 66 points 6 days ago

Meanwhile my country's most powerful public health official: "vaccines are dangerous because they train viruses to be stronger, we should instead simply infect as many birds as possible"

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago

The US will end up with the highest fatality ratio than any other country and Trump will still blame Biden and Hillary's emails

[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 47 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Time to stop all testing immediately so that there are no cases

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[–] slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 62 points 6 days ago

This is literally the worst possible time for it to happen. If you think global trade and prices are fucked right now then just you wait.

[–] thebluehood_380@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don’t wanna get my hopes up so fear-mongering aside, how actually likely is any of this?

Because I keep remembering that humans are notoriously bad at future prediction.

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[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

I thought there was an effective bird flu vaccine that was being given to chickens and wild birds.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Well that drinking raw milk is paying off, congrats. Someone should strap RFK Jr to a chair and make him drink gallons of infected raw milk.

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