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Cross-posting my comment from the lemmy.world thread:
The purity testing and holier-than-thou attacks going on in these fundraising threads are truly counterproductive. We're not strong enough as an ecosystem and community yet to be able to afford this luxury. If this is coming from the left, I think you should consider the larger goal here.
I also think that this take is worth reading.
The devs being who they are is a big reason this place was not attractive to nazis and other reactionary trolls who were banned from reddit the way other reddit alternatives have ended up in the past. Say what you will but I would deal with whatever we have going on here over whatever Voat, for example, became 100% of the time.
Off topic, but threadiverse.link is a pretty neat service. I didn't know such a thing existed. Unfortunately, clicking the link from my lemmy.ca account takes me to a logged-out session. Is this a known issue?
Are you browsing on www.lemmy.ca and that link took you to lemmy.ca maybe? (I just fixed that missing redirect, so now www.lemmy.ca -> lemmy.ca)
No, there's no www in my URL. Are you not experiencing the same problem? I'm using Firefox 138. For testing purposes, I disabled all my browser extensions and disabled enhanced tracking protection for lemmy.ca and threadiverse.link.
It works for me. There's no integration here, threadiverse.link is just redirecting you to our instance. Your browser for some reason isn't preserving your lemmy.ca session when you come in that way.
If you refresh the window after you end up here, are you logged in then? There was a lemmy bug related to that, but I think it's fixed.
Refreshing the window kept me in a logged-out session. What ended up fixing it was clearing the cookies and site data for lemmy.ca. After logging in again, the threadiverse.link redirect keeps me logged in. Thanks.
for some context, there was a bug where the cookie wasn't being set properly. so it's likely you were logged in and the incorrect cookie value was set, and logging out and back in fixed it.
Maybe if the main devs weren't kinda trash they'd get more money
I donate monthly to Fedecan. If Fedecan wants to give some of that to the Lemmy devs, then go right ahead, but I'm not giving my money to them.
The money donated to Fedecan is exclusively used to fund the non-profit organization, and the instances it directly manages (lemmy.ca, pixelfed.ca). There is no plan to transfer a portion of the donations to the Lemmy devs, as we prefer to keep the accounting as simple as possible and makes it obvious what you're financing.
I would rather just donate to Fedecan, like you (and I do). If Lemmy or any other project (e.g. Pixelfed) need money to operate, I think that is a good use of the funds.
Contributing monthly both to them and Fedecan. I'll see if I can increase my donation to Lemmy devs.
E: Done. Thanks for the reminder, and thank you to everyone making this incredible thing possible!
Hard to separate the developers from their politics. But once the software is out there, we're in a "Death of the Author" scenario. Usually. For open source software, we could maintain a fork without them, but then we'd need to get a bunch of devs up to speed. So it's an interesting choice.
Or how about no: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/18374613
I'll donate money to individual instances, but for as long as Nutomic/Dessalines is in charge of the .ml instance I will not be donating to them.
If we all stop donating to Lemmy just because the devs are being tankies, how will Lemmy survive?
I don’t want to go back to the bot-ridden reddit with its elon-simping CEO.
It might not survive because it's not just the software, it's the software-userbase combination that creates the network. Moving from Lemmy to something else isn't a seamless experience. It requires work. If you force the already sizeable userbase to move to something else, you don't know what proportion would move and what would decide this is too much instability to deal with and go back to corpo social. If onboarding is a problem to adoption today, I bet this sort of change won't register well.
Nobody is forced to move. They can stay on lemmy until they choose to move, because their instance decides to change or they see the features on other software is better. They can continue to use lemmy without expecting it to improve at the same rate it would with more donations.
Lemmy isn't the network, Lemmy is just software that some members of the network run.
mbin, PieFed, Friendica, nodeBB, and a bunvh of others are also powering the network.
I mean, PieFed exists as alternative software that has a very similar feel to the one Lemmy has.
Could also go for making the instance one based on Mbin, though the layout change might be a bit of an adjustment for people.
Honestly for all the flaws it has that the developers are still working on, I would much rather give my time and money into supporting PieFed.
At least the devs there are expressly against the kind of rhetoric Nutomic and Dessalines regularly involve themselves in.
Is there a way to support individual Lemmy instances, like mine at .world, and not the main .ml tankie one?
Update: Just found their Ko-Fi. Sweet
Did it earlier today. Thanks!