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[–] markstos@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Run a second correlation on the incomes of these families and the tech literacy of their children and see what you find. I have a hypothesis.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In my experience kids who had iDevices don't grow up to be tech literate but do have decently off parents.

I also grew up dirt poor and only had a webTV til I was like... 14. I'm way more tech literate than most it seems.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

webTV

Wasn't that pretty expensive? Or am I thinking of something different?

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 156 points 4 days ago (29 children)

I'm currently training a new employee who comes from the "My school handed out Chromebooks" generation, and hol...eee...shit... Its frustrating as hell.

Literally every single instruction gets followed up with "no...double click"

FML

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 58 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I am that generation, but I was blessed enough (not dirt poor) to have a family Windows PC at home, and my mom got me a HP laptop later because she knew I was gonna be going to a tech school program in my Junior year, and knew that Chromebooks were dogshit.

My tech teacher would constantly complain about the kids who had like zero Windows knowledge, and couldn't do shit like open a PDF in word, or simply find the terminal. I knew this shit would happen when I was in school, I literally told my mom that anyone who can't afford a windows device at home is fucked in the work environment. Compounded by the fact most teens are iPhone purists and make fun of Android, they're just too used to "shit just works"

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)
[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 41 points 4 days ago (4 children)

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/opening-pdfs-in-word-1d1d2acc-afa0-46ef-891d-b76bcd83d9c8

Word can open PDFs in word for editing them.

It's honestly more intuitive than opening then with the internet browser (edge).

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[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Looking at the comments, it occurs to me that we're not a representative section of the online community.

Were literally people who went out of their way to not use a conventional/commercial tech product.

I wonder what the % of people on here is who have built a pc, used a raspberry pi or installed Linux compared to the outside world.

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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 32 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Is the hypothesis that Windows being constantly broken forces you to learn how to fix it ? Because that’s kinda what happened to me 😆

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (9 children)

If you've had to mess around with EMM386 and HIMEM settings to play Wing Commander 2, you win.

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I take it someone has already pointed out that excluded was the word wanted?

[–] Pogbom@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't unclude my vocabulary like that

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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

Disclude is a perfectly cromulent word.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

I'm curious what her hypothesis is, I don't think there is a correlation at all personally, seen a ton of people who know nothing about their computers regardless of Mac/Windows as their primary os.

[–] VampirePenguin@midwest.social 69 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Linux users are inherently more tech savvy because there are no limits. On the contrary, there is documentation and free knowledge aplenty. Windows and especially Mac hide and obfuscate everything happening under the hood and you are vaguely warned away from doing anything not specifically blessed by the corporation. That's why those users are less tech savvy on average.

[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 34 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Don't jerk yourself off too hard for using linux

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[–] LOLseas@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Picard Maneuver, inciting violence once again, I see. tips fedora

Gotta get my kicks somehow

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Fun. I didn't grow up issuing a Mac, not did I grow up using Windows.... Nor Linux.

When I started on computers, we used DOS.

I'm old.

I'm not old enough to remember punch cards, I was solidly in the x86 generation, but still.

For the record, I do IT support now. I'm the one that helps you with your printer.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Should've written "Mac PCs" just to mess with people.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 85 points 4 days ago (38 children)

Tbf installing linux is not that hard

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 62 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Back in the day when installing Solaris and OpenBSD and such you had to specify in numerical values the number of sectors of hard disk space you wanted to format drives with. Shit is considerably easier now with modern UNIXy systems.

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[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

Year of birth matters a lot for this experiment.

Macintosh versus some IBM (or clone) running MS DOS is a completely different era than Windows Vista versus PowerPC Macs, which was a completely different era from Windows Store versus Mac App Store versus something like a Chromebook or iPad as a primary computing device.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 63 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I grew up with mac, but I was always so frustrated that I couldn't play the games and run the programs my friends could on their computers. I finally bought my own PC in high school, and was so happy to have the control I always wanted. I haven't switched to Linux yet, but at this point it's inevitable; I'm just dragging my feet on figuring it out.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A home-built (from a set) one-board computer counts as what?

[–] The_Ferry@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Autistic children will be discluded from the study for skewing results

[–] adm@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I learned because I was torrenting and broke the family windows computer. It was either fix it or get grounded.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

I used MacOS for a bit, switched to Windows, then when I was 15 I installed Linux :3

Granted I do very much have autism

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[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Discluded? Are you sure you don't mean excounted?

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 51 points 4 days ago (7 children)

My father made me figure out how to compile Linux drivers for a modem card before I could have internet.

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[–] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I switched to Linux after my experience with Windows Millennium Edition. Many people have since referred to me as some sort of programming genius and hacker.....I don't know crap about any of that. I've simply followed instructions and referred to the help communities, whenever I've had trouble. Using the mainstream distributions (I'm guessing) has kept me from having much trouble.

I think my kids may benefit, as my wife only uses Mac, I have 2 Ubuntus and a Mint, and the kids use Chromebooks at school. We have 2 iPad and a Galaxy tab in the house. 1 kid has an Android phone and the other an iPhone. My wife and I both have flagship Android phones.

Sometimes it's fun to watch them debate over which systems they prefer, depending on the school projects they work on.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mixed messages here: "I’ve simply followed instructions and referred to the help communities, whenever I’ve had trouble." Fellow human, those are the actions of a programming genius and hacker. The bar is remarkably low. A lot of people can't even read what it says on the screen.

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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 48 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I started on a Mac and now I'm an IT expert.

But that's because my next computer was a Dell.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

My condolences, on both counts.

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