I rarely feel like it ever helps, and it's taxing on the kidneys/liver. So, I tend to not bother until it's bad enough.
My friend works out and takes pain meds frequently.
He also complains about yearly kidney stones.
I have never had a kidney stone. Where he's on his 8th one.
Yeah, they're partly genetic but you can risk it. I have a couple of friends who have had their third or fourth stone and I've never felt so much as a slight discomfort on my kidneys. It makes me wonder wtf they're doing to themselves but I'm not one to judge.
Was he on narcotics? I'm finding no link between Acetaminophen or Ibuprofen to kidney stones. Just drink more water.
https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/articles/year-2023/june-prevent-kidney-stones.html
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30829133/
Ibuprofen is mostly processed by your liver as well. Acetaminophen uses a bit of both.
This appears to occur predominantly systemically in the liver [1,10], but may occur pre-systemically in the gut as well [11]. Ibuprofen is almost completely metabolized, with little to no unchanged drug found in the urine [1,9,12].
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4355401/
Acetaminophen (APAP) is normally metabolized in the liver and kidney by P450 enzymes. No toxicity is observed with therapeutic doses of APAP.
https://www.goodrx.com/acetaminophen/is-tylenol-acetaminophen-bad-for-your-liver-or-kidneys
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8669426/
Tylenol (acetaminophen) is almost completely broken down by the liver. During this process, a toxic chemical forms. Normally, the liver makes it non-toxic. But if you take too much Tylenol, the liver can't properly process it all. The toxic chemical can then build up and poison liver cells.
https://www.goodrx.com/acetaminophen/is-tylenol-acetaminophen-bad-for-your-liver-or-kidneys
i'm the polar opposite, if i have a headache/migraine or cold symptoms i pop an ibuprofen and suddenly it's completely gone half an hour later.
So yall are just talking about baby meds for minor headaches. I'm up on that prescription grade headache medication for my debilitating migraines, and I can not take it more than a few times a month without doing irreparable damage to my kidneys and liver. Sometimes, dealing with headache pain is the healthier option.
You must be on a preventative, right? Rather than just managing pain when they come on?
I've tried Nurtec, Aimovig, and about to start Ajovy.
Nurtec and Aimovig worked pretty well, though not perfect. If you haven't tried a preventative, I highly suggest seeing a neurologist, if you can.
I follow that anime logic where I just need sleep and a massive buffet to get back to 100%.
Holy shit people. Don’t take medical advice from some Internet forum filled with memes.
Is this advice? Discarded.
First try drinking a glass of water though
and eat some salt
And just eat in general. My goodness sometimes I'm so surprised, I'll be feeling terrible (usual for me) and I'll realize I haven't eaten in a long time and take like one bite of something and instantly my headache and possibly fatigue are significantly better.
Video games should have taught us this. Food is a healing item.
I keep drinking blue liquids and my mana's still at zero.
Plus now I don't have any coolant for the car.
.... but not too often.
If you have regular headaches, see a doctor. Could be hay fever or other allergies for example and there's stuff that works much better for that than painkillers.
Yeah even OTC drugs aren't necessarily safe to take daily and indefinitely. Depending on the medication, you can end up with things like stomach ulcers or even liver damage. Once in a while is fine, but if you're needing to take something daily, you might want to get checked out and/or try some sort of other methods.
just make sure to read the information slip, and at least here in sweden the recommendation is to not treat headaches with pain relievers more than 9 days per month or it can just cause more headaches.
what i go with is just doing what i can to handle the headache/migraine without medicine, but feel 0 guilt about popping a pill if needed. Especially if i'm going somewhere or have something at home i want to actually enjoy i'll not hesitate to medicate.
Excuse me I would rather not build up resistance to painkillers and then be screwed once I REALLY need painkillers.
The headache sucks, but it's not wisdom tooth level pain.
Edit: I'm not taking about opioids or stuff. I'm talking about simple over the counter meds that aren't addictive but you can still build up resistance to. I already managed to have that happen and have one type become useless
There's a VERY big difference between "pain relievers", NSAIDs, and "pain killers" which are opioids. NSAIDs are effective and safe if used properly.
Not all pain killers fit into those two categories.
The normal headache pill, paracetamol (most notably sold as "Panadol"), is neither NSAID nor opioid.
Absolutely, the risks of addiction are monumentally different and should not be conflated. That said, my sister definitely did get addicted to Advil in her teens and had to go through withdrawal. On the other hand, I haven't had an Advil in over ten years and in that time have only experienced a handful of headaches, each only lasting a few minutes. Chances are, I'm just very lucky. But there's also a good chance that if I resorted to Advil before meditation and hydration, my luck would run out more frequently. YMMV.
So much medical misinformation in this thread but it looks like there's some merit to acetaminophen tolerance.
Less so NSAIDs. They definitely need more studies that take human populations into account because there aren't any I could find that weren't in rats.
Acetaminophen resistance:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18468992/
NSAID:
I just saw a doctor about this, turns out chronic headaches are not normal. It turned out I have an allergy giving me congestion even though I’m breathing normally but enough to induce pressure on my head. Go see a doctor if you’re having daily headaches.
Pain is usually a message, often that message is "This body part is damaged, try to modify how you are moving to not aggravate the wound" In those instances I dont actually WANT to remove the pain because its helping me heal faster and correctly. When its bedtime and its stopping me from sleeping? THEN I'll take some pain meds, as lack of sleep is also bad for my health
It would be nice if it was that simple for everyone, but it isn't. Migraines especially are debilitating for me and I will 100% take my pills over trying to ride the pain.
Sometimes, I know why I have a headache, but most of the time, it pops up for no apparent reason. Always had been since I was 10 years old. So fuck that noise, after a certain threshold, I take ibuprofen and acetaminophen instead of suffering for hours.
I just sent this to my wife lol. She needs to hear it.
I'm bad about this myself.
I don't take the headache medicine because it never actually helps with my headaches. 🤷🏻♂️
As someone has had a headache since 1986... take the medicine.
And if you don't have any to take, keep talking to doctors until one of them listens.
Pain medication IS medicine!
There is no point in suffering.
Just because you are dependent on a medicine, does not mean you are an addict.
There's no glory in suffering, but there's stubbornness in my heart.
Spoken like a true someone who doesn't have secondary side-effects to headache medication.
A friend actually needed this lol, just take your meds.
Things a MF who will never ride in to Valhalla at the head of a winged horde would say...
The headache medicine doesn’t do shit anyway. I need a cold, silent room and sleep to make the headache stop.
(applies to all medications)
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