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Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Disable all ai being on by default. Offer me a way to opt into having ai, but don't shove it down my throat by default. I don't want google ai listening in on my calls without having the option to disable it. I am an attorney, and many of my calls are privileged. Having a third party listen in could cause that privilege to be lost.

I want ai that is stupid. I live in a capitalist plutocracy that is replacing workers with ai as fast and hard as possible without having ubi. I live in the United States, which doesn't even have universal health insurance. So, ubi is fucked. This sets up the environment where a lot of people will be unemployable through no fault of their own because of ai. Thus without ubi, we're back to starvation and hoovervilles. But, fuck us. They got theirs.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My favorite one that I've heard is: "ban it". This has a lot of problems... let's say despite the billions of dollars of lobbyists already telling Congress what a great thing AI is every day, that you manage to make AI, or however you define the latest scary tech, punishable by death in the USA.

Then what happens? There are already AI companies in other countries busily working away. Even the folks that are very against AI would at least recognize some limited use cases. Over time the USA gets left behind in whatever the end results of the appearance of AI on the economy.

If you want to see a parallel to this, check out Japan's reaction when the rest of the world came knocking on their doorstep in the 1600s. All that scary technology, banned. What did it get them? Stalled out development for quite a while, and the rest of the world didn't sit still either. A temporary reprieve.

The more aggressive of you will say, this is no problem, let's push for a worldwide ban. Good luck with that. For almost any issue on Earth, I'm not sure we have total alignment. The companies displaced from the USA would end up in some other country and be even more determined not to get shut down.

AI is here. It's like electricity. You can not wire your house but that just leads to you living in a cabin in the woods while your neighbors have running water, heat, air conditioning and so on.

The question shouldn't be, how do we get rid of it? How do we live without it? It should be, how can we co-exist with it? What's the right balance? The genie isn't going back in the bottle, no matter how hard you wish.

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Most importantly, I wish countries would start giving a damn about the extreme power consumption caused by AI and regulate the hell out of it. Why do we need to lower our monitors refresh rate while there is a ton of energy used by useless AI agents instead that we should get rid of?

[–] kossa@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would love to see regulation, that any contet created by AI cannot be used commercially.

I love e.g. that parents can make their own children books, but nobody should profit from all the stolen work of artists.

[–] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even that constitutes theft on some level. It devalues children's books and the talents required to create them. It disincentivizes parents to go support actual authors and illustrators, and anything they make with AI is based on stolen intellectual property.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Yep, it does. But then again it is in line with how copyright works today: I can draw a Mickey Mouse comic for my child as much as I want, I cannot publish it.

And most parents would not have the time anyway to cut out "all the children's books". I love how I could create one that my daughter wished for for her birthday, but it is not a serious dent into our book spendings or library rentals.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Not much, just don't build it over theft.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

i would use it to take a shit if they let me

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I think two main things need to happen: increased transparency from AI companies, and limits on use of training data.

In regards to transparency, a lot of current AI companies hide information about how their models are designed, produced, weighted and use. This causes, in my opinion, many of the worst effects of current AI. Lack of transparency around training methods mean we don't know how much power AI training uses. Lack of transparency in training data makes it easier for the companies to hide their piracy. Lack of transparency in weighting and use means that many of the big AI companies can abuse their position to push agendas, such as Elon Musk's manipulation of Grok, and the CCP's use of DeepSeek. Hell, if issues like these were more visible, its entirely possible AI companies wouldn't have as much investment, and thus power as they do now.

In terms of limits on training data, I think a lot of the backlash to it is over-exaggerated. AI basically takes sources and averages them. While there is little creativity, the work is derivative and bland, not a direct copy. That said, if the works used for training were pirated, as many were, there obviously needs to be action taken. Similarly, there needs to be some way for artists to protect or sell their work. From my understanding, they technically have the legal means to do so, but as it stands, enforcement is effectively impossible and non-existant.

[–] Ludrol@szmer.info 1 points 2 months ago

A breakthrough in AI Alignment reaserch.

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