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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Wow, people hate AI! This post has a lot of upvotes.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

don't worry, you can become president instead

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

I'm a slow learner, but I still want to learn.

[–] detun3d@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Yes! Preach!

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cries in "The Doctor" from Voyager.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The Doctor would absolutely agree. He was intended to be a short-term assistant when a doctor wasn't available, and he was personally affronted when he discovered that he wouldn't be replaced by a human in any reasonable amount of time.

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[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So it’s ok for political science degrees then?

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

My hot take on students graduating college using AI is this: if a subject can be passed using ChatGPT, then it's a trash subject. If a whole course can be passed using ChatGPT, then it's a trash course.

It's not that difficult to put together a course that cannot be completed using AI. All you need is to give a sh!t about the subject you're teaching. What if the teacher, instead of assignments, had everyone sit down at the end of the semester in a room, and had them put together the essay on the spot, based on what they've learned so far? No phones, no internet, just the paper, pencil, and you. Those using ChatGPT will never pass that course.

As damaging as AI can be, I think it also exposes a lot of systemic issues with education. Students feeling the need to complete assignments using AI could do so for a number of reasons:

  • students feel like the task is pointless busywork, in which case a) they are correct, or b) the teacher did not properly explain the task's benefit to them.

  • students just aren't interested in learning, either because a) the subject is pointless filler (I've been there before), or b) the course is badly designed, to the point where even a rote algorithm can complete it, or c) said students shouldn't be in college in the first place.

Higher education should be a place of learning for those who want to further their knowledge, profession, and so on. However, right now college is treated as this mandatory rite of passage to the world of work for most people. It doesn't matter how meaningless the course, or how little you've actually learned, for many people having a degree is absolutely necessary to find a job. I think that's bullcrap.

If you don't want students graduating with ChatGPT, then design your courses properly, cut the filler from the curriculum, and make sure only those are enrolled who are actually interested in what is being taught.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Who's gonna grade that essay? The professor has vacation planned.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that professors and teachers are being forced to dumb down material. The university gets money from students attending, and you can’t fail them all. It goes with that college being mandatory aspect.

Even worse at the high school level. They put students who weren’t capable of doing freshman algebra in my advanced physics class. I had to reorient the entire class into “conceptual/project based learning” because it was clearly my fault when they failed my tests. (And they couldn’t be bothered turning in the products either).

To fail a student, I had to have the parents sign a contract and agree to let them fail.

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[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

A good use I've seen for AI (or particularly ChatGPT) is employee reviews and awards (military). A lot of my coworkers (and subordinates) have used it, and it's generally a good way to fluff up the wording for people who don't write fluffy things for a living (we work on helicopters, our writing is very technical, specific, and generally with a pre-established template).

I prefer reading the specifics and can fill out the fluff myself, but higher-ups tend to want "how it benefitted the service" and fitting in the terminology from the rubric.

I don't use it because I'm good at writing that stuff. Not because it's my job, but because I've always been into writing. I don't expect every mechanic to do the same, though, so having things like ChatGPT can make an otherwise onerous (albeit necessary) task more palatable.

[–] ArtemisimetrA@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I literally just can't wrap my AuDHD brain around professional formatting. I'll probably use AI to take the paper I wrote while ignoring archaic and pointless rules about formatting and force it into APA or whatever. Feels fine to me, but I'm but going to have it write the actual paper or anything.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

AFAIK those only help the instructor with grading as it would put all the essays they need to review on an even (more or less) playing ground. I've never really seen any real use in the professional world outside of scholarly/scientific journals.

My opinion is that they tend to stifle creativity of expression and the evolution of our respective languages.

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