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[–] Big_Lem@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 hour ago

didnt he just talk shit about bidens cancer? thats Republican behavior.

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 17 hours ago

But if they do that they might upset their corpo donors!! Thats terrible!! Instead they should just do strongly worded press conference.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 35 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Another moderately worded letter is in the works as we speak.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Just you wait, 11 more of those and it will be a sternly worded letter. 16 of those and they’ll receive a demerit, then they’ll really be regretting their choices. You don’t even want to know what happens if they receive 7 demerits.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Let the finger wagging commence!

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 22 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

This is what I think he is talking about when he says fight. I believe he is refering to embracing popular policies (I.e. Universal healthcare, public housing programs, etc.). Here is a link to what democratic politicians CAN do to slow the slide into fascism.

https://youtu.be/Ny7CYha574s

https://indivisible.org/coup

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's just not how politics works in the US. Politics is a career, or in many cases a stepping stone to a career. They're not there to fight anyone, they're there to achieve their personal ambitions. They're not ideological warriors, they're white collar elites. They don't necessarily have any ideological commitments, and as such they will simply adopt whatever the ideological paradigm is at any given time.

I don't expect any politician to fight Trump, if doing so means compromising their career ambitions. If there's going to be a fight, it has to be fought by the people, not the politicians.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it might be time to start harassing politicians to do their jobs.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

No I think it's time to harass politicians to get jobs. Politician was never supposed to be a career path despite turning into one

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Run. For. Office.

These fucking stooges go into congress and sit on their thumbs for decades at a time I guarantee that anyone on lemmy with a comment history bigger than 200 could argue for better positions in American politics than any congressional rep sitting in congress for the last 50 years. They're all spineless cowards. They need to be unseated and we need to replace them with real people who have jobs and fucking live in the world they have to make laws for. Congress pays a salary, I don't want to hear people talk about "oh I cant I have work." This is possibly the single most important political moment in American history and we need fighters on the front lines. The civil war started when a member of congress got up and BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF A SLAVER IN THE ROTUNDA. WE NEED THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.

Join dsa, go canvass for someone who is already running for local office, go find orgs that are doing mutual aid in your community and contribute to that effort however you can, fundraise for causes you care about within your community and get the people who are passionate enough to show up for fundraisers to turn into campaigners with you. Build a movement in your home town that cant be shaken by corporate media because you have your own news ecosystem that the people in your movement are all attuned to instead of billionaire owned corporate stations. This is the real work that has to be done if we actually want to fight the systems that have been corrupted, and I don't see anyone explaining that anywhere.

It isn't hard to start a movement it's hard to convince people that it's easy to start a movement. Plenty of Americans understand what is happening and are afraid. What they are afraid of is being the only one to stand up, don't let them be alone. Build a coalition, define your goals, make a plan, and execute it. Hearts and minds. Just remember that the ultimate goal of a fascist administration is to make people convinced that the only thing you can't do is organize and defeat it.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely. No office should be more important than your local office. They are the only ones who will ever have an actual interest in representing you.

Even if you are someone like myself who wouldn't make a good actual candidate for a highly public office. Because of the stress and strains of having to mask Etc. Your time and resources can make all the difference to those local offices.

There's no better way to accomplish nothing, then waiting around for the national parties to come to your rescue.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Big fucking facts. It doesn't have to be all of us, but there are plenty of people I've talked to in my conversations that do have a grasp on politics and probably COULD convince people that they were better than the two parties. If there was ever a time to start running as republicans in deep red districts and just talking about socialist policies its now. People have no idea what politics are anymore.

For example: I'm a centrist, I believe in universal Healthcare and a jobs guarantee, I want a 90% tax rate on corporations, and social security should be funded from the age of 50 for all Americans. It's really easy. Words dont mean anything anymore. Tell your people what they want to hear and then get in office and fuck shit up. If fascists could do it why cant you?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

As an anarchist. I'd say that doesn't go far enough. But it is absolutely a good start. I'm all for doing it. So long as we don't stop there. Because that would only really reset things to something like they were a hundred years ago. But it wouldn't stop everything that's happened since then from happening again. We gotta start with what's achievable first. That's what matters.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

And you can expect a ton of people to push back against anyone trying to improve things for people.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Not sure why he is trying to change the Democratic party instead of aligning with a different party like PSL or Greens and trying to change them. The DNC will never allow the Democrats to change. Never.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

“with his 4.4 million mostly progressive young male followers on Twitch and YouTube”

LOL the author makes it sound like it’s Timcast or something

There is a pretty diverse audience, it ain’t just “bro dudes”

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

But if they Fight Trump they MIGHT Make People's lives Not as Bad and that's COUNTER to the DNC and Chuck Schumer Strategy of MAKING SURE AMERICANS SUFFER!

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world -4 points 14 hours ago

But you've spend decades convincing democrats that anger solves nothing and working with people is always the better way. Don't be surprised you have no warriors when you've only been training sheep.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org -5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The Democrats were voted out of power. Stupid Americans. You voted for this shit. You gotta live with it.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They were voted out because they failed at politics! Hasan is telling them how to stop failing at politics. It's not new advice, and the party is as unlikely to heed it now as it ever was.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There were vioted out because Americans are fucking stupid.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

When have voters not been "stupid"? That is a well known factor in US politics. If voters were smart we would never even have heard of Trump or Biden or Harris in the first place.

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

Don't feed the troll

[–] themachine@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s like there isn’t enough understanding how fucking stupid of a move this was. It was the worst possible scenario.

Think about yelling at a couple of white chess pieces left in the board “GET ANGRY! Fight!” when the full black set is there minus a couple of pawns.

I’m not saying don’t but you don’t have much to actually do anything with. Protesting and civil disobedience I would think a lot the best options and it doesn’t seem like people have an appetite for those at scale.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The issues are that 1.) It never seems to accomplish much beyond getting some poor protesters killed by inept cops that never got training on how to use beanbag or rubber rounds, and 2.) The US is a BIG place. We can’t all just take a day off in the middle of the week to fly across the country. We’re broke and tired, trying to make rent, not waste a few hundred precious dollars to potentially get killed for saying the wrong thing.

Now I get it, this is absolutely the time to be protesting. Now more than ever. But man, I’m tired. I’m broke. I’m lucky to have enough gas to make it to work. I can’t pick up and go to DC whenever.

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Organize with 50501, protest at your city hall. Talk to your friends and family about how shitty this all is. Good luck. I hope you get a break in this latestage hellhole.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 1 points 20 hours ago

I most certainly did not and have not.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And he took his part by spouting russian propaganda and bashing democrats relentlessy during the election cycle.

Trump wants a "civil war", and he's helping.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I don’t even know who this guy is, but getting angry won’t get you anything and violence will only get you killed.

Boycot

Fund raise

Protest

Vote

Those are our options at this point.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And he's saying that the Democrats should push for those, basically, instead of doing... check notes nothing.

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

Hey now, don't forget the signs they held up quietly while nobody was looking.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 23 points 1 day ago

but getting angry won’t get you anything

Being angry is a prerequisite to the things you listed, and also, you forgot the most important item: Organize. There's simply no way America gets a happy ending without a general strike, and the work to make that possible starts now, right this second.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm of the opinion that MLK Jr. was largely successful because folks saw the alternative was Malcolm X... and they still fought MLK Jr. tooth and nail.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

You need two things to get a political movement going. First you need to reach a critical mass by creating public sympathy for your movement. This can almost only be done with peaceful protests like MLK. Violent resistance is too easy to demonize and shut down when people do not sympathize with your cause.

Then the critical mass needs to be turned into action, which is what Malcolm X did.

If you start off the movement too radically, it will never be able to reach critical mass.

[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

He's the current most watched left wing political streamer.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago

Every change for the good must be backed up with “And we will fight you to the death over this.”

Fourth box.

[–] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

We did all those things, none of them worked.