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[โ€“] Dutczar@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Considering that negotiating with livestock would be a hassle, probably just pretend we can't understand them

[โ€“] Deme@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

...while still listening to everything they say in order to control them more efficiently.

[โ€“] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good premise for a scifi story.

[โ€“] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not like we can't understand the screams and cries from livestock right now already...

[โ€“] Dutczar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but the living ones are not asking "hooman, what happened to Stacy?"

[โ€“] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cows are known to cry and wail when their calves are taken and killed.

[โ€“] Dutczar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

TIL, I thought we usually kill the older animals first.

[โ€“] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Dairy cows are impregnated around 7 times so they can be milked. Most of their calves are used for veal.

[โ€“] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the vast majority of calves do not become veal

[โ€“] random_character_a@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Telling them that man is the image of god and they are inferior beings created for man to subjugate.

[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I think I've seen this anime

[โ€“] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Ask for consent.

[โ€“] multifariace@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

We would make it too complicated. Almost all animals are in survival mode. Some that have free time could understand limited concepts. It would be easier to setup commerce with some corvids for example but not to keep them out of the corn fields. Dogs would have a lot more anxiety and cats wouldn't change much.

[โ€“] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

By not giving them any rights even though complex expression through language implies a high level of intelligence and sapience. The dog and cat that you can talk to are still considered your property that you can just take to the vet and put down. Animal shelters can now just tell the animals their kill dates so they don't get too hopeful. Slaughterhouses will be filled with screams you understand instead of just screams. Cosmetic companies and labs can now ask their test subjects for the level of pain while smearing makeup in their eyes. Sea World, zoos, circuses, etc would make peak profits now that they can address their slaves as if they were human slaves.

I mean, all humans can communicate with each other and we still don't give rights to some of them. Anyone who thinks we'll be nice to animals just because they can talk is either a child or otherwise doesn't know how humans operate.

[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

There are some things people should not know, and I agree that the pain threshold and communication of forced euthanization and slavery of animals will be a game changer. Thanks for this analysis

[โ€“] capuccino@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

"Let's go for a walk. Lmao I lied"

[โ€“] Cattail@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Spend hours trying educated them democracy and war and watch them break into faction to murder each other

[โ€“] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well you shouldn't waste the meat left on the battlefield right?

[โ€“] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This'd be great since it's a whole lot less morally compromising when it wasn't even us bumping them off.