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Yes, it seems that this community is being brigaded. There are a lot of posts on other Lemmys about the feddit.org announcement and it looks like there are people coordinating posting/voting here. It's kind of obvious when on every Israel/Palestine post multiple people from other instances show up on our small german instance who never posted here and start spreading the most blatant propaganda nonsense.
So yeah, we should totally do a kind of pause for Israel related content. If not, this community will become "European politicians react to something happening in the middle east" and "Some protest is going on about the situation in the middle east in a european city". And there will be massive fights in the comments.
Ok, let me propose a theory:
- We know that Hamas started this war
- We know that not only Hamas attacked Israel, but that other militias in the region attacked to - Hisbollah, the Houtis etc.
- We know that all those are closely affiliated with Iran and that they are coordinating with Teheran. It's unthinkable that Hamas would act without consulting with Iran first
- We know that Iran and Russia are allies
- Both Russia and Iran had big problems in 2023: Russia was (and still is) stuck in Ukraine, waging a bloody "3 days operation". Iran had massive pro democracy protests after Mahsa Aminis was murdered by the police
In this context Hamas stages its attack and the worlds eyes switch from Iran and Ukraine to Gaza. There is no news reporting from Ukraine anymore, everybody talks about Gaza. People were voting for fucking Trump because of Bidens Israel politics. The global left is fighting itself due to Gaza while the global right is winning everywhere. And there are lots of accounts around that are simply trolling.
And that totally is the playbook someone like Putin is using. Don't be a useful idiot.
Ok, let me propose a theory:
- We know that Netanyahu deliberately supported Hamas funding to prevent Palestinian unity and block a two-state solution
- We know that defense stocks jumped after October 7 - Lockheed Martin bounced over 12% and raked in profits from the $17.9 billion in military aid flowing to Israel, and the $61 billion for Ukraine
- We know that all major powers had big problems in 2023: Netanyahu had 38% approval and 76% wanted him to resign, Putin was stuck in Ukraine, Biden faced declining ratings
- We know that Netanyahu's coalition would have lost 11 seats in September 2023 polls and hundreds of thousands were protesting his judicial reforms
In this context the timing was perfect for everyone's domestic problems. Israel's massive protests vanished overnight. US defense spending got bipartisan support for the first time in years. Every incumbent got their foreign crisis distraction while defense contractors cashed in.
The world's eyes switched from Ukraine, domestic failures, and economic problems to picking sides in Gaza. Defense budgets exploded, energy markets destabilized profitably, and populations rallied around their governments while ignoring corruption at home.
And that totally is the playbook of disaster capitalism. Don't be a useful idiot for the war profiteers. Demand your government oppose blank-check military spending, and support peace negotiations over arms deals.
Idk, this smells like bait to me. I cant see why it shouldnt be posted about?
My top looks different, but these all do in fact seem to be posts about Europe. Itβs a major conflict that is getting a lot of media attention and European countries have finally started losing patience with Israelβs actions.
I usually don't post stuff about Israel or the Gaza war because I don't know enough about it to have an informed opinion, but when EU diplomats gets shot at, that's news that's related to Europe imho.
And no, just because I don't have an informed opinion doesn't mean I support either side in the conflict. I do however would like the killing of civilians to stop.
I see your one of the posters in the image, I believe you're right in thinking this is related to Europe
Most posts about Israel is not about the conflict itself but how eu deals with it, which to me is a post about europe. I would also say an article about "Trump announces tarrif on xyz" would not fit here, while "Von der Leyen dislikes trumps xyz tarrif" would. But I am biased, since I think this is a big issue in European politics and I believe if the anti-genocide people stay quiet the pro-'we need a good economy' people win.
Sort by New or Scaled, it all goes away.
The Israel/Palestine conflict always attracts a lot of discussion, so if you sort by Active, that's what you get.
We'd need to look up how the "Active" algorithm works. It doesn't align like that with any other sorting method. And also not on other platforms.
To be fair, each article has "Euro" in the title, and I can't find the Berlin one. your's however shows up and makes it even more consequtive ones with Israel in the title.
And I mean it's kind of an "active" topic of discussion right now... And Europe has lots of foreign relations and discusses everything...
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html
Here's the algorithm, if you are interested.
Would like to hear a mod opinion on that. We have lots of Middle East Conflict communities on Lemmy, the mods could just say that posts about Middle East should be posted there, not in this Europe-community.
E: I mean they do have something to do with Europe (Eurovision, Berlin, ...), but do we need such a mass of posts about Israel/Gaza in c/europe?
E2: Checking the latest post, it doesn't seem as much as this post indicates...
That's just Lemmy for you, a lot of communities on there get brigaded with this topic, including technology and completely unrelated ones
Israel is part of Europe, CMV
Other way around: Europe is just an Asian peninsula with delusions of grandeur.