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submitted 1 year ago by Masimatutu@mander.xyz to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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You’re allowed to believe in a god. You’re allowed to believe unicorns live in your shoes for all I care. But the day you start telling me how to wear my shoes so I don’t upset the unicorns, I have a problem with you. The day you start involving the unicorns in making decisions for this country, I have a BIG problem with you.

-Matthew Shultz

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[-] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A bit too egocentric for my taste. To take the example further, people that teach their kids they can only wear sandals when going out or people teaching to discriminate against race or gender because they believe it will make the shoe-unicorns sad can also shove their belief where the sun don't shine

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

problem is, things like racism and sexism aren't explicitly taught and are kinda passed on through culture

[-] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Culture and religion are in many cases closely tied though

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I refer to the Gods of people that impose their religion on others as "your favorite pokemon."

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago

The problem is they reinvented gods in order to justify the world they want.

It doesn't matter if we believe in Jesus, Poseidon, shoe unicorns, or celestial teapots. There's an established conspiracy to change the culture through propaganda and reeducation. This week's Behind the Bastards on How Christanity Got Eaten By Capitalism notes James W. Fifield Jr. as a keystone figure in the late 1930s.

So if we had an established religion of shoe unicorns they would be about property rights and freedom to be exploited by capitalists in the 21st century, even if they were pacifistic communist unicorns in the 19th century.

A lot of money was spent by industrialists in order to turn the US into a theocratic oligarchy. Jesus is just the mascot.

[-] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure this tracks. If the unicorn-shoe-believer really believes in shoe unicorns, how could they not tell other people how to wear shoes? If they stand by and do nothing, then billions of unicorns will come to harm from people wearing their shoes wrong. If someone told me they believe in shoe unicorns, but they don't care how I wear my shoes, I would suspect that they don't REALLY believe in shoe unicorns.

[-] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They cannot prove the existence of the unicorns, and thus they cannot define the unicorn's reaction to the shoes being worn. Perhaps the unicorns are fake, perhaps the unicorns do not mind sharing the shoe space with the feet (and are capable of compressing), or maybe the unicorns even prefer to be compressed by feet.

We don't know, so we shouldn't make it a universal moral rule, much less a law.

EDIT: Besides, it's not like religious people have never committed acts antithetical to their own religion.

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

capable of compressing

Pffft... Now you're just making shit up.

[-] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Shoenicorns work in mysterious ways.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How do you stop the unicorns from stabbing your toes tho?

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Careful, keep talking like that and conservatives will steal it, miss the point that unicorns are imaginary as opposed to real people who believe things about themselves, and apply this logic to trans people

[-] CluckN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’m going to tell you to wear your shoes in the atheist Lemmy instance they’ll probably enjoy this.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

saying this as an atheist and even anti-theist myself, that place can get toxic and prejudiced af sometimes.

edit: this is to say, unless you're a newer atheist looking for support or to air out frustrations and you don't know anywhere else to go, it's kind of a low-value place, imo. You're better off channeling that negative energy into good use than participating in the low-effort circlejerk that place has become.