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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

What about the seizure and occupation of vacant private property?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago
[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 219 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Everything except for harming capital, ok? Now go kill each other.

[–] weird@sub.wetshaving.social 105 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Huge companies would import stuff by the planeloads to avoid tariffs/duties

[–] AnIntenseMoist@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Employees would be too busy hunting down CEOs to import stuff for the company.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 19 hours ago

The smarter ones would be vacationing in a different country, or on open seas on their yachts

[–] weird@sub.wetshaving.social 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I imagine there would be a group of people in each company with special contracts for hazard pay to work on purge day.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Just regular pay, but with the promise of a Friday pizza party.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 36 points 2 days ago

CEOs would be in Europe.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Apple was literally buying up entire passenger flights and filing them with iPhones instead of people to skirt in under the deadline. Capitalism is a hell of a drug.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Realistically, doesn't randomly killing people harm capital, in so much as it would mean they must have more staff to cover the work of an unknown number of murdered employees afterwards, lose money spent training anyone that gets killed, and have a slightly smaller workforce available that also is more proficient at violence?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In theory yes, less employees means the value of labor goes up because of demand. This is what happened after the Black Death in Europe.

In the wake of the drastic population decline brought on by the plague, wages shot up, and labourers could move to new localities in response to wage offers. Local and royal authorities in Western Europe instituted wage controls. The government controls sought to freeze wages at the old levels before the Black Death. Within England, for example, the Ordinance of Labourers, enacted in 1349, and the Statute of Labourers, enacted in 1351, restricted both wage increases and the relocation of workers.[30] If workers attempted to leave their current post, employers were given the right to have them imprisoned. The statute was poorly enforced in most areas, and farm wages in England on average doubled between 1350 and 1450,[31] but they were then static until the late 19th century.[32]

Cohn, comparing numerous countries, argues that the laws were not designed primarily to freeze wages. Instead, he says that the energetic local and royal measures to control labour and artisans' prices were responses to elite fears of the greed and the possible new powers of the lesser classes that had gained new freedom. Cohn continues that the laws reflected the anxiety that followed the Black Death's new horrors of mass mortality and destruction and from elite anxiety about manifestations, such as the flagellant movement and the persecution of Jews, Catalans (in Sicily) and beggars.

Of course nothing will stop the ruling class from fuckery.

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[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago

Let's go, Luigi!

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Let's cover polygamy and tax fraud. If you marry multiple people during the purge ... does that mean the marriages are all legal?

If you claim a $1,000,000 tax refund and mail it while the purge is going ... is that legal?

Most people would have way more on their mind than just murder.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Within 4 hours of announcing that a "purge night" was a thing, they would have to revise it to just call it "murder night" and even then, it will get further modified to "Murder of sanctioned people and groups night" and even THEN they will have to further amend it until it finally says "The police get to murder you night" and then they will want to remove the nightly restriction and then BAM you have what we have now.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Just like that, you have moved any books written about the Purge from fiction to non-fiction.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I haven't watched the movies in depth, but the premise alone speaks to me of a subtext that leads to this understanding about our world.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I would say that once the purge ends you cannot be legally married to multiple people. Meanwhile if you murder someone they're just dead. If you kidnap someone you'd have to let them go when it ends.

Stealing is an interesting gray area. Is possessing a stolen object the crime, or is the stealing the crime? Or possibly both? If possessing a stolen object is illegal then you'd have to return them when it ends.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

It's not "stolen" because stealing is a crime but you took it on ~~free balloon~~ Purge Day. It's just something you have now.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What if you shot someone during the purge, but they did not actually die until the next day.

I'm thinking this whole "no laws" concept would actually need hundreds of thousands of laws. Courts would be tied up for years after each purge just trying to answer the legal questions regarding having no law.

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[–] rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Skyrim would have me believe that possession of a stolen item is also a crime.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 90 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Everything is legal, including:

  • falsifying a crime report or committing purjury
  • excessive force or police brutality
  • coerced confession
  • false arrest or imprisonment
  • evidence or witness tampering
  • unwarranted search and seizure or surveillance
[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're still talking about the purge, right?

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[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Dropping nukes...

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

If everything is legal, and a police officer imprisions you that's ok right?! Nothing is ilegal. so we back.to running from the police

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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 97 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The actual purpose of the Purge if to make tax fraud legal for 24 hours so the rich can somehow pay even less taxes.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They don't need a purge night to commit tax fraud, the do it every day, for vast, vast sums of wealth.

If they had a purge night in real life, they would quickly amend it to just "murder" night. Lest the poors get an idea that they too could exploit the system.

Then they would amend it again because they don't want to get murdered. So it will be "Murdering approved people and groups night" but that also has a chance of backfiring if someone wealthy or the people protecting them could be at risk, so they will just change it to "The police get to murder you night" and then they will shrug and remove the nightly restriction, and then there you go... our current system.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 2 days ago

They don't have to pay taxes ever again if the angry mob of poor people get to them.

Unnecessary. They're already doing tax fraud.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Stealing some real food, destroying anti-homeless architecture, sleeping in your own car, getting an abortion, same-sex marriage.

Anyway, I doubt most people would get violent. Most people aren't just held back by laws, but morality. People would probably just be trying all kinds of drugs mostly, racing, trespassing and breaking into places. What better time for exploring some abandoned buildings, or staff-only areas.
You'd probably find me in a train depot, probably taking pictures and trying to figure out how to get one of the engines running. If that area wasn't guarded of course.
Alternatively, I'd probably steal a bus. Or a semi truck. Just temporarily. I don't have a drivers license, but I want to try driving that.
Hmm, I might take a bicycle to the airport. I doubt people would risk flying, and it would probably be the emptiest area for cycling.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I always assumed the Purges were set up by a far right government to legally kill anyone who tried to organise against them.

Send goon squads (not the new ones) to smash up and kill coops, local farms, unions, uncooperative lawyers, journalists, etc.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You can do that without the purge.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 days ago

Yes, folks can and do.

But Hollywood likes to good wash the current status quo, so let's ignore PayPal's union busting and censorship policies, bombing civilians, systemic racism, and take it up to 11 in a fictional future.

Or maybe I'm just jaded by the biggest fans of "purgey" settings being right wing folks.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 4 points 2 days ago

No Knock Warrant. Wrong Name Warrent.

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anyway, I doubt most people would get violent. Most people aren’t just held back by laws, but morality

I'll be honest here, mate, I think we've seen that a very large portion of the population would be more than happy to get violent. It's mostly the ones who scream about laws needing to enforce morality on 'the heathens.'

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Time to erase all debt 👀

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The first rule of Project Mayhem is you do not ask questions, sir.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I'm gonna J-walk all over the place, and there's nothing you fuckers can do about it! ANARCHY!!"

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[–] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

I’m gonna infringe on medical patents and pirate as much corpo medicine as I can in 12 hours

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Like feeding the homeless in certain cities?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

We want to watch poor people kill each other, not better their situation

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You won't be charged with entering illegally, but staying illegally.

You won't be charged with the import, but for posession. Well I guess for exports, if you procure it and export it quickly and then delete/destroy it from your posessions, its fine. But import? Nah. Whoever end with its possession is fucked.

And for export, they could just charge for the creation of it without approval, not the export itself.

Piracy? Yea they'll just prosecute for posession.

Tax fraud? They'll just shut down IRS for duration of the purge so you can't even file it.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pirates Software

Large Company To Police:

They pirated it after the purge ended. If you don't destroy their property, I'll make sure you get fired and your life forfeit!

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[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

During the purge union busting would be worse but man it goes both ways

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I always thought those movies were too simplistic.

Some people would think things through.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Luckily, I think the way that I conduct my life leaves me with very low odds for being on anyone's kill list. I only have to worry about the murderous random killing.

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

During the purge I’d hide in my bunker while downloading as much copyrighted material as possible onto a harddrive.

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