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New Prime Minister, new relationship with China.

China's playbook seems to consistently follow this pattern. If they get in a spat with anther country, the grudge continues until a new state leader comes into play, then all past grievances are reset. Sort of like Union-management - when a new collective agreement is signed, past active grievances tend to be voided.

Given that Carney is devout Catholic, we shall see if his dedication to the Pope, given the very tumultuous relationship between the Roman Catholic Pope and China, gets in the way of Good Governance in Canada's policy decisions towards China.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Given that Carney is devout Catholic,

Not while he’s in office

But China is a better partner than the US for us right now and we will need them before we can ban trade/travel to the US

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Carney attended the inaugural mass for the new ope after he started office. He did so as a Catholic, not as a PM.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Yikes, I feel that should bar him from office

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently there is no such prohibition in Canada. Even leaders are free to worship according to their faith.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I suppose it’s a matter for the courts to ensure reasonable limits for section 2 of the Charter is upheld

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

Freedom from religion comes with freedom of religion in Canada.

He's conservative, I'm not surprised he's religious.

[–] upbeatWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

Keep your friend choose and enemy closer? Seriously tho, you can't keep China or any other countries isolated in the globalized economy. Best to have a working relationship unless they are invading like Russia with Ukraine

[–] kaeurenne@lemmy.kadaikupi.space 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

One of my friends is from Canada.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

You wouldn't know him though, he goes to a different school....

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Asked directly while speaking to reporters on Parliament Hill on Friday on whether he trusts China, Carney did not give an explicit answer.

Given everything China has done... makes sense to not trust them. But even then, what countries can you even say this about anymore? Seriously? I was pretty sure this whole thing with America and the UK leadership being so wishy-washy kinda taught us all that you cannot trust any country. You should be friendly and aim to get along with people but trust? Why would you trust a country when the leadership can change so easily and switch the feeling towards your country?

What a stupid fucking question

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's right. And conversely cutting ties because you don't trust a country or don't approve of all its doings is also a bad strategy. Instead maintain a working relationship, do not trust and don't develop a dependency but utilize what is useful. That's what China does with the West and they've done well.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly. We're on the same planet. You don't have anywhere else to go. You cannot treat a nation like it is in an individual person. It's a different creature all together that requires different handling entirely. As much as I fucking hate the United States, so much so that I cannot elaborate on that without violating TOS, you can't just wall them off completely.

Personally I prefer the "Anything you can do, I can do better" tactic of vengeance. Take literally everything good America has ever done and buff it until it shines. Throw away anything that doesn't work. Then use all of that manipulation and forced economic struggle to collapse that sham of a country into what it actually is, at MINIMUM 3 different countries in a trenchcoat.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca -4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Your opinions would be received much more favorably without the obscenities. They add nothing and turn people off.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Gaze upon my field of fucks and see that it is barren. The fucktiller idle, the fuckerlizer piled in a corner and the seeds of fuck yet to be sown.

I genuinely couldn't care less what you think if you're going to lecture me over using the word fuck once. This isn't elementary school in rural Manitoba. This is the Internet.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

"Fucking" is an intensifier in this sentence. The meaning would slightly change without it.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It is not an 'intensifier', it is just obnoxious. The purpose is not to enhance any meaning, but to 'dominate' over the reader. The word is used in an 'adversarial' context - an insult and a challenge to the reader. It is symbolic of the general anger that we see so commonly today, and I submit it is a direct cause if that anger. The demise of American civilility is completely mapped on to the curve for the use of these obnoxious, angry, combative vulgar terms in the common vernacular.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 minute ago

If you can't handle the word "fuck" then you shouldn't be online. People are angry, and rightfully so, and should be able to express said anger without being tone policed.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Fucking thank you

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Communication is fine and cooperation where it is necessary and makes sense, but let's prioritize CETA and CPTPP countries where trade is concerned.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Let's do what it takes, and certainly do not let America dictate our trade policies.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago

It’s the store brand version of normalize.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For all I know Mr. Carney's personal religious views may be of great interest to theologians, but they are not politically relevant in Canada or in China.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

I matters a lot if he lets his religious views interfere with his political duties. During the last elelction, the Catholic Bishops made a point of commanding all Catholics to vote for a candidate that would push for Catholic theology to dictate policy.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I think it's more about the changes in the US than the changes in Canada. Could be both though.