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[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

The evolutionary origins of trombone

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 44 points 1 year ago

obviously this makes no sense evolutionarily, they must have been created by mermaids to make various instruments out of their shells.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Assorted butt plug shapes.

[-] SandLight@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Kink shaming is uncalled for in this situation.

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

You did see the username to whom you're responding, yes?

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, I suppose they might seem bigger to a predator, and harder to swallow for something that swallows prey whole?

[-] CyberTailor@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

accidentally "all tomorrows"

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

I don't see anything impractical about the one that's just an ordinary ammonite but with spikes.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago

The Mariella one also looks fairly normal, looks like a number of aquatic snail species

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah but it was novel at the time

[-] sheepishly@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

These are some weird regional Omanytes.

[-] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Slowy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Niche, silly, beautiful

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Just some hard shell noodle bois dooting the best they can

[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I read hetrimorph ammonite time in “peanut butter jelly time” tune.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Mighty Heteromorphic Mollusk Rangers

[-] Damaskox@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

It's crazy to think about how long it took to get more than one-cell life!

[-] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Has anyone got some conclusive theories on the functional morphology of this?

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

This was the "fuck around" era of evolution and being wacky was cool

[-] LouisGarbuor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

In my history of life class I was tought it was to do with controlling buoyancy, although all the variation seems odd for that.

Maybe a combination of controlling buoyancy with species identification?

[-] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Might be plausible. I’ll have to look it up at one point, maybe there’s some research on this. I think it may be hard to guess why because we don’t have many swimming animals with shells. I don’t know if snails may offer some answers but they are maybe to different in lifestyle.

[-] LouisGarbuor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably too different, as snails are benthic, while ammonites where probably nektonic.

Iirc the shells being longer is something about allowing gases in the shell to compress or expand as needed to control bouyancy. I would imagine there is a sac of gas, and the ammonites would siphon water in or out as needed to compress or decompress the gas.

Edit: just looked it up on Wikipedia, it appears the heteromorph ammonites are thought to have maybe been planktonic or benthic.

Definitions for non-nerds:

Benthic means living on or near the sea floor.

Nektonic means free swimming

Planktonic means going with the current as plankton. I should note plankton aren't all tiny, some are visibile to the naked eye. All it means is unable to propel themselves against current.

[-] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It is certainly a challenge to keep a large animal with such a thick shell afloat. However that would just explain the immense size of the shells. Their shape is just extremely weird and sometimes I’d even expect it to be detrimental to their ability to navigate the open water. If they were planktonic it would not be as problematic I guess but I still don’t see the functional advantage. Maybe mimicry? But of what?

They look a lot like the calcareous shells of some polychaetes but they have a sedentary lifestyle attached to rock or other substrates which is not what we’d expect for Ammonites.

Maybe it’s a puzzle that will remain unsolved.

this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2023
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