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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Yeah, basically that. I'm back at work in Windows land on a Monday morning, and pondering what sadist at Microsoft included these features. It's not hyperbole to say that the startup repair, and the troubleshooters in settings, have never fixed an issue I've encountered with Windows. Not even once. Is this typical?

ETA: I've learned from reading the responses that the Windows troubleshooters primarily look for missing or broken drivers, and sometimes fix things just by restarting a service, so they're useful if you have troublesome hardware.

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

Folks, Windows's own system image couldn't be restored from Windows. I had to go download some program called Macrium Reflect and use the underlying VHD files.

What broke? Oh, you don't know? It was a bad Windows update that had a broken driver or something causing driver verification to fail.

[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Not that I've ever seen. It usually means it's time to reinstall.

[-] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 3 points 11 months ago

It's weird to me that we accept 'reinstall the whole operating system' as a fix, it's so absurd. I've literally never had to do that with any other operating system.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

It isn't accepted as a fix, because it doesn't fix the issue.

Reinstalling is done for speed. Because it is quicker to nuke something and build it back up, than to go around and fill all the cracks with concrete.

In business, it is more important the system is back up and running than to have found the fix to the issue.

This is true for every OS.

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[-] MrSlicer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I was missing printer drivers it found the drivers (iirc)

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I can't say I've ever had a problem solved by any of the troubleshooters, yet I always go to them just in case one day they do.

Usually they either direct you to the most generic solutions possible (that you've already likely done by the time you're resorting to the troubleshooter), reset your networking (thanks Windows, I felt like having to reconnect to all my networks again) or come back saying they couldn't find a problem...

Which clearly isn't the case Microsoft, because if there wasn't a problem, why the fuck would I be using the troubleshooter? For the shits and giggles?

[-] ares35@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

only once for startup repair, twice for system restore. all client systems, not mine, since the introduction of those features. one of those ended up needing a full backup and reinstall soon after anyway.

plus the one time shadow copies from automatic system restore points saved a client's cad, docs, images, pdfs, and other files from a poorly-executed ransomware attack (that failed to clear out those vss copies). a nirsoft utility was able to save everything.

the 'fixit' troubleshooters are nearly worthless.

[-] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

both fixed things many times

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 3 points 11 months ago

It will sometimes wipe your static IP configuration and switch it to DHCP which could theoretically fix something, but I've only ever seen this break things instead.

[-] ctobrien84@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Many times.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

My old desktop seemed to have something wrong with its LAN port and the troubleshooter fixed it pretty consistently.

[-] woodgen@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

This would only be possible if it installed Linux.

[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 3 points 11 months ago

I would usually have issues with my wi-fi, where the connection after a reboot won't work and the wi-fi GUI would reset itself everytime i tried. Network troubleshooter would fix it 100% every time and quite quickly, so there was no reason to actually figure out what was at fault.

[-] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

Nah more features and flexibility the better

[-] amir_s89@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

I had a problem once when my laptop display was just black after booting. Triend everything, nothing worked. Return to OEM authorized support. They had my laptop for 4 weeks, so solution. Then just refunded the full price & retuned back the laptop.

Ubuntu LTS since then & no sick or weird issues since.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

It broke itselt, it broke Win2Usb and it broke grub. Thats it hahaa

[-] pat277@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I had it work once for a wifi issue that was caused by an update, during either Vista or Win7 era. Outside of that, it fixed an audio problem for Win10 on a single app.

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. Tried it like 3-4 times in my life for really f-ed up not booting machines and it never worked for me. Haven't tried it since the ealy Win10 times, though.

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I've used it to fix multiple issues from boot issues to driver issues.

[-] YexingTudou@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

It used to fix WiFi issues for me back on Windows Vista (bleh). Vista would always have issues when I woke my laptop from sleep mode, and my WiFi would be disconnected and unable to reconnect/properly turn off. Running the troubleshooter would restart my wireless card. Other than that I haven't encountered anything it's helped, but I don't use windows too often these days.

[-] tofubl@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Just been through the fire of having to clone my system to a new SSD and no, startup repair did nothing for me.

[-] mtchristo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The HP help and troubleshooting software did better than the Microsoft one.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think it helped with a internet issue once, but I probably just needed to reset something.

I'm pretty sure it just does the absolute basic troubleshooting.

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