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Zelenskyy: We’re very close to point when Russia can be forced to end this war
(www.pravda.com.ua)
I really hope so
this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2025
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If Operation Spiders' Web is more than just an isolated attack on Russia's air bases and is continuing to strike deep into Russian soil, then this has serious potential to finally bring Putin to the negotiating table.
Other than that, I think this will be a bloody war of attrition that Zelenskyy has no chance of winning.
The EU is bankrolling Ukraine, Russia has no friends and no money. Ukraine will easily outlast Russia. They just need to stay put and keep defending their positions while taking out Russia's capacity to attack.
China is still bankrolling RU and the EU is still purchasing RU energy, so there are still funds to be had
Taco/fElon are Russia's friends/assets. They and their gop/maga supporters need to be kicked out of the usa government. Hopefully then, usa will return to Ukraine's side.
The good news is that literally nobody can count on those guys.
Hilariously true. Anyone who puts actual faith in those guys or relies on them for anything is insane. (Or just desperate as fuck, which Russia may be becoming.)
I can’t help but think back to when Musk was threatening to cut off poor, remote areas in South America from Starlink over petty shit. Yall want THAT guy to be your friend? Yikes.
I'm no expert, but I would think that the best way for this to work is to go all-in with the first strike. Every following strike will be SO much harder to succeed.
Could be a "phase 2" like: Expecting all parked trucks and sheds in a 10 km radius of any military airbase to be inspected, so make traps. (Or any other phase 2 that takes advantage of the reaction.)
NOT a bluff
But he doesn't have the cards!
I know that's sarcasm, but your comment made me think. I strongly disagree with those kinds of remarks. :)
This war isn't like a game of Poker, where everyone is dealt from the same deck. It's more like MTG, where the real game is about who can make better strategic use of their card-buying budget.
Yeah me too. That's why I make fun of Trump with my comment
..but Ukraine already has steady domestic production of 155mm armored self propelled artillery now, so yes AND Ukraine has better cards.
Man, imagine a world where the meeting with 🌮 was theater.
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I don’t think Putin’s pride will allow that. Short of the Ukrainian army seizing Moscow and trapping Putin in his Tzarist bunker-compound, they will force no peace from that KGB fascist.
Putin will never stop being a war criminal until the day he dies. If he takes over all of Ukraine, he will move to Moldova then Georgia then Latvia then Estonia and so on.
The moment this war ends, the Russian Federation will collapse. People forget but Russia has collapsed twice in the last century by doing the same things it's doing now.
It collapsed the first time when the out of touch tyrannical Tsarist government dragged the country into a needless war (WWI) while the country was going through a crises. The country collapsed and formed the Soviet Union.
It collapsed a second time when the out of touch tyrannical communist government dragged the country into a needless war (Soviet invasion of Afghanistan) while the country was going through a crises. The country collapsed and formed the Russian Federation.
Now the same thing is happening. The country has an out touch tyrannical dictator that dragged the country into a needless war during a time of crises. Once the war is over the country will revolt and collapse once again.
Tsarist government dragged the country into a needless war
I think Imperial Germany did the most part of that, while Russia wasn't starting WW1. They did however heat up everything by attacking small neighbors, yes.
tyrannical communist government
Its important to say that it wasn't really communist. They called themselves communist to take over from the revolution easier. They were mostly just authoritarian, while Stalin completely hollowed out the soviet republic functions. There was no republic, council, democracy or communism. Just harsh disctatorship.
Sadly, what most think about when hearing communist or soviet, is the latter part and everything Stalin did. Oversimplified, communist means all things should belong to the people (as a people), not to a few people or any other power. And that's never what Stalin did or even intended.
The second collapse was to a great part also due to chernobyl. It's economic consequences often get overlooked. They had to use a LOT of resources and military personnel to contain it and preventing half of eastern Europe becoming unliveable wastelands.
Yeah, it seems authoritarianism is bad. Hopefully Russians will figure that out the next go around.
"and then it got worse"
As American example shows us in real time, it's not something you just "figure out" once. Democracy requires society to always win in eternal struggle against human nature.
Ronald Reagan was a terrible politician, but he absolutely nailed this quote:
Perhaps you and I have lived too long with this miracle to properly be appreciative. Freedom is a fragile thing and it’s never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by way of inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. And those in world history who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again.
He was a great politician. He was a terrible human being.
No self-awareness in how he helped setup being one generation away from the extinction of freedom.
Russia has treaties with Britain since like 1904 that obligated it to engage in WWI. Thats how the murder of a Serbian devolved into a world war
Outcome of leading to the downfall of the regime regardless, it was a little different than Afghanistan or Ukraine
Not to be thát person, but Archduke Franz Ferdinand was not a Serb, he was Austrian. Even though Austria-Hungary did annex Bosnia and Herzegovina in the late 19th century, Franz Ferdinand was not born there - in fact he was born before the annexation.
Unless you mean his killer, but then your wording is a little off and I would say "murder BY a Serbian." Even so, the ethnicity of the murderer wasn't really as important as his target. ;)
Thats how the murder of a Serbian devolved into a world war
Archduke Franz Ferdinand was Austrian.
They also were figthing and got defeated by Japan right before that - did contribute to the downfall a little
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Wonder what Trump will do to stop this
Zelenskyy: US has sent 20,000 missiles bound for Ukraine to Middle East instead
Nothing makes a US President feel better after a bad day like bombing the middle east
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He'll try to stop/derail it if he can't claim ownership of the results.
The whole mineral rights stuff is going to be interesting to see play out. Because Zelenskyy, and Ukrainians in general, should very much beware Yankees bearing “gifts” at this point, because we are not the same country we were 6 months ago.
It's not like he needs to uphold the deal beyond ending the war. The US certainly doesn't honour its agreements anymore.
The US certainly doesn't honour its agreements anymore.
Native Americans: "Anymore?..."
It's an odd one, because it only applies to new developments. As far as anyone knows, Ukraine doesn't have any rare earths worth mining, and doesn't have a lot else new to mine, either. However, that's based on old geological surveys. They might well have something, but it's all speculation.
It would be really hilarious if it turns out that they’re like “yeah sorry it’s just uninteresting rocks and terrestrial strata”
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Redirect 20,000 anti-drone missiles away from Ukraine, apparently
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Zelensky is a bit like a CEO presenting his company's prospects. He was talking like this two years ago, too.
I personally think he's not wrong. Just - until Kremlin gang's members and their families are being caught and jailed\deported all over the globe, or at least in NATO countries, this is all bullshit. Well, maybe after failing in Ukraine they'll attack some smaller and weaker country, just to show themselves they can defeat someone. And maybe they'll try again.
In any case - yes, that leadership keeps Russia weak, inefficient, dependent, but as everyone can see, it's also capable of destruction on scale too big to allow. So maybe some optimism should be applied and the goal be for Russia's regime to change and for it to have a democracy that may make its potential useful for everyone around. The "keeping it weak" approach, after all, has already led to Putin.
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