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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 132 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is interesting that Superman’s archenemy was an incredibly wealthy businessman. That seems to be the exact problem with our world today (there’s just many more of them).

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Environmentalists in comic books are nearly always deranged villains, and the ones that aren't are still weak and naïve.

The only strong environmentalist hero in Western canon is Captain Planet, and he's got sus narc vibes.

[–] ideonek@piefed.social 25 points 1 month ago (18 children)

Well, Green Arrow. But you have a point.

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[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Storm and aquaman are pretty pro environmentalist without making it their only identity.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Poison Ivy is essentially an anti-hero at this point, and she is considered fairly powerful too.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 58 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Couldn't he just take all the billionaires and fly them into the sun or smth? I don't know if that alone would fix things, but it's a start. Also literally no downsides.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago

His nemesis is literally a billionaire and he never managed to get rid of him.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We got American Superman. We got Soviet Superman. We need Anarchist Superman.

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Captain planet gets close to that

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don Cheadle's Captain Planet, you mean.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, In. Public he "Fights" the rich but in the Dark he is awfully chummy with a rich furry.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I bet you if he just lightly beat up one billionaire a day that the problem would sort itself out pretty quickly.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

That's why he's constantly fighting ~~Jeff bezos~~ Lex Luther l.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 month ago (10 children)

We can solve those problems directly or indirectly by tying superman to a dynamo. With free energy even the issues with materials can be solved over time.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Just have superman round up every billionaire and political leader and drop them off on an deserted island, and the rest of us can start fixing our problems like adults.

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a small parody comic about this?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

One of my favorite ever smbc, and that's SAYING something! ❤️

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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bitch could literally turn back time

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How many rounds around earth til un-inventing plastic?

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1 turn = 1 day

Completely artificial plastic was invented in 1907 - 118 years ago.

1 year = 365 days

118 years x 365 days = 43,070 days

So 43,071 rounds should do it, and then just clonk Leo Baekeland over the head or something.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

1930s Superman would've agreed with the crowd.

[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 month ago

This just makes me think of Captain Planet. He knew how to solve these sorts of issues. By beating up assholes and making them stop.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are evil "robots" you can go beat up to solve those issues, yes

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But you said they were robots Rick!!

They're bureaucrats Morty! I don't respect em.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Nobody understands Superman, especially most of his writers.

Dude is alien Moses created by two Jews during the Holocaust. His arch nemesis is a billionaire/the president. C'mon.

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn't superman pro free will

He will protect against threats but if you fuck it up your mostly on your own

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Does superman think humanity chose capitalism? If Superman landed in 1600s Europe, would he think humanity chose feudalism and help put down peasant uprisings? 1700s Haiti, would he help stop slaves from stealing or enacting violence against the French?

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 1 month ago

That's why Superman is usually more proud of his work as Clark than as Superman.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Don't forget about fighting people who actually have plans to make the world a better place

Related note, excellent video essay, "Defenders of the Status quo" https://youtu.be/LpitmEnaYeU

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Only watched half of the video (because it's something I'm well aware of), so it might have gone into it, but another angle is that there's often villains that make good points and then suddenly take it in a batshit direction.

Like Thanos had a point but apparently never understood exponential growth and how reducing all life by any constant factor is just delaying the same result, even if his snap made 99% of people disappear (unless he snaps enough people that the population collapses entirely, which is what he wanted to avoid).

There's many other examples where reasonable starting points end up in unquestionably evil conclusions. Pretty sure it's just propaganda to make people who don't think much about things link those reasonable beginnings with "evil" in their minds.

Also there's characters like Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark who are billionaires but their stories always ignore the realities of what must be done in order to become a billionaire (ie underpay staff doing the actual work by billions). In Stark's case, they sidestep that by giving him super advanced AIs and automation robots, though he's still the owner of a large corporation, that he still benefits from despite offloading any of the responsibility of even running it to everyone else.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

Didn't Luigi have something to say about that?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Well, he could beat up all the CEOs and politicians...

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

This is what I like about Wonder Woman. She shows up and is like. "Oh shit! There's a world war going on! Better go stop that." Meanwhile in the present super man is stopping random petty theft.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, sorry guys, but these sorts of things aren't really Superman's department.

Uh... You could... Hmm... You could try asking Mr. Terrific.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Bullshit. Superman can totally stop global warming by simply pushing Earth further away from the sun. Similar to how he sent the whole planet back in time by just turning it backwards.

And I guess he could just beat the fuck outta the ceos of every major corporation, too. It worked against Lex Luthor.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

D:

W-why The fuck would you want that!? He'd literally be effecting the orbit of a whole ass planet, you have no idea the kinds of consequences that'll bring! And it wouldn't even solve the pollution problem!

Superman isn't supposed to mess with time either. That is the type of shit that gives Lex Luthor's arguments against someone like Superman a point!

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