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[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 21 points 5 hours ago

If the Marines want to uphold their oaths, they'll start fighting the cops.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago

The saying “once in a lifetime events” needs to be changed to “well 5mins ago”

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I know we've been crossing a lot of lines over the last several months but this seems like a big one.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They ALL seem like big ones, but then we get over and shift that much further into authoritarianism.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

It’s called Hypernormalisation, and Adam Curtis did an interesting documentary about it back in 2016ish

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 66 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

So...how close are we to that point where other countries open their doors to us under asylum laws? I mean, Trump's siccing the military on people and it's not even 6 months into his term yet.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Taking in refugees is not very popular at the moment.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Just like the 1930s. By the time countries will open their doors to the oppressed in the USA, we'll be rolling our own ovens here.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

Happening already. US trans people are coming to Canada and applying for asylum now.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

There exist countries that have already offered safe haven/asylum to US'ians... Especially to LGBTQ.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 5 points 4 hours ago

I think there is a gross overestimation of the support that is available. I've seen a lot of bad articles copying and pasting different parts of immigration policy and programs but without understanding how it works as a whole.

Like, Canada has a website about helping LGBTQI+ refugees ( https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/about-refugee-system/2slgbtqi-plus.html ) and it includes partnerships with groups like Rainbow Railroad who can refer people in need of resettlement to the refugee process.

But if you only look at that and fail to consider the safe third country agreement, you're giving false hope.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Links, please? I haven't seen anything suggesting that, yet.

I'm probably OK. I'm straight. I'm White. Though I am agnostic and don't buy the State Religion behind Project 2025.

My wife, however, is Black, Bisexual, and Pagan, four strikes, and now I'm a race traitor for having married her, so there's my strike.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Just to point out it doesn't matter how white you are if you say something they don't agree with.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Or do something they don't agree with. Like marrying a Black bisexual pagan woman.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

That's my type!

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, take a good look at Luigi and how hard they're trying to blame him. You don't get much more white than Italian. Maybe Scottish, but it's close.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I actually think it is very possible to be more white than Italians—they weren’t even considered white in America until the last 100 years or so.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, this. I'm quite sure if I ventured back to the place where I grew up I could find more than a few people that would consider Italians as non-white.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Which is kind of funny when I think about the casual racism that was thrown around by my Italian immigrant Grandmother when I was a kid.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

You forgot about the discrimination of Italians in America.

Just like US was no fan of Irish immigrants either.

Really just pick a country and at some point the US has probably discriminated against people from there.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

My google-fu hasn't up to this point. In fact, I get lots of results saying that Americans are not welcome as asylum seekers in my googling. Your single link only shows places that take American immigrants, not places welcoming American refugees. In fact, New Zealand is suffering from a Conservative-inflicted recession that is making things difficult for immigrants and natives alike, and Australia has some serious restrictions on immigrants (a close friend of mine did that route and barely made the cut). And Canada? Despite a victory for the Liberal Party and 'elbows up' regarding American rhetoric, they still have lots of people angry about how immigration has been handled.

If you actually have links to help get victimised people out of the USA, maybe instead of 'why don't u google it urself', maybe post those links. That's FAR more helpful than the whole 'go do it urself!' response. :)

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago

Coming soon to a city near you.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 39 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

So for all the "The US military will not take illegal orders from Donald Trump!" crowd, there's your answer.

For years before Trump came along, people were ragging on the military and law enforcement for being low-IQ, over-armored people who liked the power trip of essentially playing a live game of Call of Duty and being able to project their power onto others. What makes you think that changed?

Now those same low-IQ people who are acting like it's a live game of COD get to shoot people they don't like with impunity. You think they're gonna abandon Trump? LOLOLOL. He just gave them the opportunity to live their dream. They get to fire into large crowds and treat every invasion of some random guy's home like a Seal-Team-Six mission where they're going after Osama Bin Laden himself. They're not gonna abandon Trump. They'll make the MAGA hat an official part of the uniform before that happens.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

They might abandon him when people start shooting back. That's what it will take

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He's already going after them. Plenty of Trump supporters have been reported as being shocked and surprised when they're the ones that were put in handcuffs, or lost their jobs, or saw their spouses deported. It has led to virtually no change in sentiment among the Trump base.

Heck, how many videos were posted during the COVID pandemic of people literally praising Trump and claiming it's all a hoax as they were taking their dying breaths?

These people will praise Trump's name while staring down the bullet he ordered to be fired at them.

I don't mean to sound cynical, but as the saying goes, if I had a nickel for every time I heard "That is the line in the sand! That is what it will take to get MAGA to abandon him!", my unborn grandkids would never have to work a day in their lives.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You're right, it's a cult by every measure. I just think there are levels. There's the "I will praise Trump as he strangles me to death" type people. But there are also the "I vote R because I like guns" or "I'm against abortion." A lot of people do end up voting on a single issue or a select few. I think being shot at might make those people reconsider.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think being shot at might make those people reconsider.

I'd like to think so too. You know, common sense and all that. Unfortunately, evidence seems to point in the opposite direction.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I hate that I have to agree with you

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

Any marine who follows this order is a traitor to the United States.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 24 points 8 hours ago

Fascism at work.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 13 points 7 hours ago

Just leave a box of red crayons on the ground and you'll be safe.

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They do this without controversy and yet when I, Antifa President John Antifa, deploy the HRT Super Soldiers, suddenly antifa is the villains?

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago

We are so very fucked

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

The mass shootings will begin.