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Fifteen years ago, smack in the middle of Barack Obama's first term, amid the rapid rise of social media and a slow recovery from the Great Recession, a professor at the University of Connecticut issued a stark warning: the United States was heading into a decade of growing political instability.

It sounded somewhat contrarian at the time. The global economy was clawing back from the depths of the financial crisis, and the American political order still seemed anchored in post-Cold War optimism — though cracks were beginning to emerge, as evidenced by the Tea Party uprising. But Peter Turchin, an ecologist-turned-historian, had the data

"Quantitative historical analysis reveals that complex human societies are affected by recurrent—and predictable—waves of political instability," Turchin wrote in the journal Nature in 2010, forecasting a spike in unrest around 2020, driven by economic inequality, "elite overproduction" and rising public debt.

Now, with the nation consumed by polarization in the early months of a second Donald Trump presidency, institutional mistrust at all-time highs, and deepening political conflict, Turchin's prediction appears to have landed with uncanny accuracy.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 16 hours ago
[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I mean that was right around, or maybe a bit after the tea party movement got started. If you follow that group you see how the ideology infected the republican party and led to Trump. The policies the tea party pushed are basically 1-to-1 with Trumps.

All of it is effectively snake oil politicians using hard times to convince Americans to act against their best interests.

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Man everything has been worse since Halo 3 came out.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Friendly reminder that Halo 3 is legally an adult this September and that you're getting old, as am I

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

3d6 Physic damage for everyone.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Another friendly reminder: if The Land Before Time (as in, the first one) was a part of your childhood, it’s time to schedule a colonoscopy

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You watch your whore mouth!

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

please, calm down grandpa, remember what the doctor said.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Wtf, how do I report comments?

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Halo 3 was a game for zoom zoom zoomies. And now it's a full blown adult. Wild.

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure it was when Harambe was taken from us... RIP 😞

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did he mention how long it would take? Because it's somehow happening too slowly and way too fast at the same time.

[–] quid_pro_joe@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

No, but someone replied to his article and suggested about 50 years. I think longer, as in better wake Harry Seldon and let's go start Foundation like yesterday!

https://peterturchin.com/the-science-behind-my-forecast-for-2020/

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 1 day ago

It didn't sound contrarían to those of us paying attention to the economics, in addition to the social policies. DAE remember the Obama Bear cartoons? "Obama! Obama!”

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

roll my fuckin eyes. when was 1985 written??

[–] Contentedness@lemmy.nz 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

1985: The further adventures of lobotomized Winston Smith!

... its 270 pages Smith staring at a poster of Big Brother, just endless, baseless, internal monologue poetry about how wonderful he is... with very occasional intrusions of reality that, overtime, make it clear he is actually in something between a set and a cell, and the 'cafe' keeps serving him drugged tea and coffee.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago

lmfao that's hilarious

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean I could tell you some 4000 year old legend in the making but you wouldn't believe that either, let me know if you wish.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I am saddened you did not have questions.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 16 hours ago

It's pretty obtuse I'm not sure what to ask, I mean what do you mean exactly

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Cronus was released from his prison upon this millennium's entry. However only few know his real name.