No matter what kind of trade deals the EU signs with the US, I feel strongly that the EU should work to divest away from fossil fuels as aggressively as possible. Do Europeans really want to be funding far-right extremism in Russia and America or do you want clean solar and wind energy?
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Fossil fuels are the primary reason we continue to be in this mess.
Iβm 100% certain the rise of the extreme right is fuelled by the oil and gas industry. Hell, the extreme political islam has been pushed by Saudi Arabia for decades. Weβve been paying for our own downfall.
Right, it's not just American and Russia that are bad, it's the extremists in the middle east too! That's why I say buying fossil fuels from another country isn't the answer, electrification and green energy must be the way forward.
we have far-right extremism at home
True, but far-right extremism is interconnected globally. Funny that people like Alex Jones talk about international conspiracies when the only real one is the way in which the far-right is coordinated and operate in lockstep. For example Trump has people from Hungary advising him and Trump and Republicans receive a lot of support from Russia. Musk endorsed the AfD and Reform UK. You stop one far-right party in your country or another country and you're helping the fight against the global far-right which will help stop far-right parties in other countries.
Sure yeah, sign a deal and find out. If youβre a true european youβll be checking labels: Made in USA? trash, donβt buy. Deal around and find out.
Problem is preprocessed ingredients making their way here and then being "made in Europe" by just mixing the final product together or maybe even just putting it in the final packaging.
You also won't know if restaurants use cheaper US ingredients.
Under pressure for what?
It has already been stated that the import of food items, in detriment of the higher EU food standards, will not be negotiable.
Two simple examples: chicken and beef.
For beef, it would be as simple as stop pumping cattle with steroids and attest the origin of the animal, two things american rancher are unwilling and often unable to do. Argentina and Brasil sell meat to the EU. Isn't the US as capable?
Stop washing chicken with chemicals (likewise, eggs), treat the animals properly, with good sanitary conditions, no steroids, and it will be fine.
But the real issue is that the EU already produces enough beef and chicken indoors. And meat consumption has been in a sharp decline. No one will buy what they don't.
Besides these two, it would make a difference if the US stopped using artificial food colorings, with proven bad effects on health.
There are more issues.
I actively avoid any and all US products, including food. I hope others do as well. So long as we keep origin attestations, I am not sure they will sell as much as expected.
I guess since we donβt know what deal will be made here we canβt really say how effective it would be for just end-consumers to reject items at grocery stores. Judging by the tone (as always with this US administration) it sounds like a deal would include forcing the EU to purchase certain amounts of food. I.e. we would pay for it even though no one actively selects the US brand products in stores
fuck trump and any trade deal with that orange piece of shit. no one wants your american shit
Fuck that shit. American food is gross
Under pressure from who?
Rich assholes with way too much influence and by extension people who would get fired by said assholes if profits dip for a microsecond.
Trump, who else
Deal? There are no deals to be made. Trump doesn't honor any deal, including his own. He is bound by no court, or rule of law. No congressional checks and balances. They are bad faith actors. There is nothing to negotiate.
The FDA has been gutted. The food is even less safe than it used to be.
American food, like their diplomacy is a nightmare. Don't do it.
Unfortunately European politicians have talked big game both administrations and continued to make deals with Trump in the first admin. Iβm hoping they stop this time, but frankly Iβm not optimistic.
Don't. Our food is kind of shitty.
I mean, they could allow it, it would overwhelmingly sit on shelves until it spoils.
Not if it's cheaper than European food. There will always be people who need to save money and cheap US rubbish would be very welcome to them. They wouldn't know about the effects on their body for decades - probably they wouldn't even suspect US food. Just look at what US fast-food is doing to the continent.
Europe is in danger if allows more cheap US crap in to the market.
And then the rest of society has to pay for the healthcare. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy to subsidize or completely pay for the healthcare of those less fortunate than me via taxation, but that necessarily has to be combined with a protectionist attitude towards food standards to keep costs manageable.
Easy, each person pays for their own health care just like in America. Our politicians have been letting our health care systems to rot for decades for this very moment.
Not if part of the agreement is to ban country of origin labeling
Fuck. That. Shit.
US food has no business in Europe, it has no business anywhere unless you want to join in the regular Listeria or salmonella outbreaks that already happened at alarming levels before the Cheeto administration dismantled all monitoring
I totally agrree and everything you've said is why I think they'd push for it to not get labeled as American.
Oh I know.
The funny part is that they fucking know how horrible their food is else they wouldn't want to pay for that, they'd proudly proclaim "Made in USA!"
It doesn't spoil. Bacteria and fungus know it's not food. Americans aren't that smart.
So it'd spoil in 2030 at the earliest?