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[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago

Better to DIE than DEI, I guess.

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (31 children)

This is a dumb narrative that leads to petty bickering while we are currently living under literal fascism. The reason they elected a fascist is because they desire change from the status quo. Pronouns are not a positive change for most people. So of course they will pick a fascist over that platform, if that's all it has to offer. The left has to get real, and I mean realpolitik. We have real solutions to offer these people. That's what the message should focus on. Inclusion is a given with leftism. DEI is corporate virtue signaling.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

agree, the inclusion movement went too far into dictating how people should behave and cancelling people on the basis of any perceived offenses and that gave electoral leverage to the current president

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

The inclusion movement hasn't gone too far. It's been turned into a lightning rod for Dems to banter about and clutch their pearls over without actually offering any real solutions to the problems people face.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't prove a negative, but it's not like US policy towards Iran (or Israel) changes much from admin to admin. Here's Kamala right before the election saber rattling: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/harris-iran-greatest-adversary-trump-election.html

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is such a counterproductive take. It ignores why Harris actually lost (like Biden running again and refusing to step down until the end), while also implying that the Democrats didn't do anything wrong whatsoever and the fault lies with the electorate. If that's the takeaway for the DNC from this past election then we're cooked.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

70 million people looked at maga bigotry of various sorts and found it not to be a dealbreaker. Fact. They either hoped or knew Trump would hurt other people not like them, so they gave him a pass. (and that doesn't count what I believe to be the vast majority of Trump voters who were overtly OK with it.)

My intent in sharing here isn't to postmortem the election. It's a reminder of the 70 million shitty people we smile and shake hands with every day.

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[–] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 month ago

Fucking worthless Trumpers

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I get the sentiment, but horrible economic prospects had a lot more to do with this than different people seeking common decency when you get down to it.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Biden: Supply chains, inflation, corporate greed. Stay the course, things are improving over time

Trump: Kill healthcare and social programs and deport Brown people. Instant fix.

Dumbfucks: I do hate people who aren't like me. And harming others makes me feel better about myself. I'm in.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Biden: Supply chains, inflation, corporate greed. Stay the course, things are improving over time

Okay not to defend Republicans, but if I was barely able to afford rent and heard "stay the course" I'd fucking riot. Please don't present Biden's position of "what do you mean? The economy is awesome" as the reasonably side here.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

I didn't think I was. But a real dumbfuck chooses option B

But factually things were improving in spite of corporate greed. But as much as they could have. Now they're not.

But this wasn't an essay

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When the alternative is to burn everything down, staying the course absolutely is the reasonable option.

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[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Two things:

  1. Inflation happened all over the world after covid due to supply issues, when production had to resume when restrictions were lifted. US had one of the lowest inflation in Western world
  2. During first taco term there was a massive wealth transfer due to the tax bill. The corporate tax cuts were permanent, while cuts for us were expiring year over year, last one expires this year.
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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Would you still riot

if I was barely able to afford rent and heard “stay the course”

…. And you had the awareness to see the historically huge investments in infrastructure, supply chains, renewable energy, EVs that would have added thousands of jobs? that inflation had been trending down and was near normal? Repeated attempts to implement assistance for the student loan crisis over Republican objections? Etc

Biden did a lot of the right things for all of us, but we needed to stay the course long enough for them to take effect and we needed to be both aware that they existed and patient enough to understand that some things take time.

Instead we voted for an orange child to throw tantrums and break all our toys.

Destruction is fast and easy, but building is much harder and takes more time

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Things are in fact getting worse for the average American over time... Or were you being facetious? That's where the whole thing falls apart and you get nihilistic voters and raging petty tyrants electing a fascist.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lmao. More seriously, though, Trump did campaign on improving the economy and it helped him a lot. The fact that anyone with half a brain could tell he wasn't going to do that is secondary.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Okay, so I believed the authoritarian liar -- but I was soooooooo mad! I literally had no choice!"

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

It's called nuance and it's a lot more productive than blind righteous anger.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If people are drowning, anybody who promises to throw them a life bouy looks like a fucking heroe to them.

Far-Right Populists are riding this effect all over the World all the while mainstream "moderates" entreched in and winning from the current system see nothing wrong with it and persist in trying to sell "steady as she goes" as policy (after all, that's what's best for them personally), something which ressonates with the people who haven't yet been affected by the pillaging of the Economy by the ultra-wealthy - the well-off middle class - but not with those below who are suffering, and as the effects of the pillaging climb higher and higher up the economic ladder, the number of those suffering keeps increasing and so does the appeal of the far-right promises.

I'm actually a member of a small leftwing party in my own country and the current leadership totally fucked the party up in the last decade or so (falling from almost 20 parliamentary representatives to 1) exactly because the new and younger leadership whom the old guard moved over to give room to, were out of touch well-off middle class types who were born with a silver spoon in their mouths and never really had to fight for making a living, and hence started parroting liberal talking points from the anglo-saxon world (because all they know besides the local language is English, and they saw that shit on Twitter and though it was "leftwing") all the while most of the people in the country were feeling the pain and it wasn't related to the political slogans that these people were parroting and the unfairnesses they obcessed about.

The out of touch leftwing-cosplayer crowd will never beat the far-right populists because the latter actually pitch radical solutions for the problems of the many (all complete total bullshit, but many people can't tell so go for it) whilst the former pitch "steady as she goes with a few tweaks" which works only for the "I'm alright" well-off middle class and above, not the many, so won't really appeal to the bulk of voters.

I'm not saying that voting for the far-right populists is right or will actually solve the problems of the many, I'm saying it's understandable that so many end up grabbing what looks like the only lifebouy in front of them.

Any genuine half-way competent leftwing politicians from a priviledged background should realise that their life experience is not representative and that the "inequalities" that are of concern to the upper middle class (a typical example: the "glass ceiling for women to become CEOs") aren't at all the biggest and most painful inequalities out there (they only affect a tiny proportion of people, who are already priviledged compared to most of the population and are not at all in pain) and actually fight against the pains that affect the many even if that requires breaking the very system that made them "winners" the day they were born.

Anyways, now in America we're seeing what far-right populists really are when they have power, similarly to what happened in Brexit Britain some years ago (and the "moderate" politicians there don't seem to have so far learned the lesson and keep on relying on the mathematical rigging of FPTP to get power less and less votes) and of course all their promises were bullshit and their "solutions" only make things worse.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If people are drowning, anybody who promises to throw them a life bouy looks like a fucking heroe to them.

But it really looks more like I’m trying to call for a rescue and you knock the phone out of my hand to hail the guy throwing rocks in the water

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I honestly do not think that it did.

That might be what people will tell you (and themselves in some cases), but I don't buy it.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

To add to this, the economy is not better for the average person currently, anyone who thought it would be is naive and I just have trouble believing that American's on average are that gullible.

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[–] dangling_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We all know the economy is bad. But they choose to believe it is caused by trans people and immigrants. So OOP still correct.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 month ago

Republicans have terrible economic policies. Voting for Republicans for economic reasons is stupid. Even if you're rich, if you care about the long term.

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which doesn't make sense either because historically all economic indicators have been better on average during democrat governments than republican ones

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except the only indicator that matters to the oligarchic owner/operators of the USA, the wealth transfer to the rich.

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah but almost all his voters are not oligarchs by statistics, they are just stupid

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

MUH ECONOMIC ANXIETY

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