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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hol up. Didn't NATO guy wank all over daddy's boobs already?

[–] Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought that was more of a language barrier thing tbh, poor guy probably would have used father or dad if he knew the connatations.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As directed by Vladamir Putin.

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I had so many brain dead idiots attack me over at Reddit, for claiming America would withdraw from NATO if trump won. They weren’t just Americans, but also Europeans.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

We'll see if this gets anywhere. Right now it's just one idiot pushing this.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does the bill include all military installation closures and those that are on European territories? For example Greenland. If MAGA wants out, then GTFO and I do not want hear any crying afterwards because that will give the Europeans every excuse not purchase US made weapons. I'm certain US MIC lobbyists will weasel their way in to tear apart the bill.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what I don't get about their plan to take over the US. It won't work because it will cost everyone money, the people they are ultimately beholden to will lose out because of actions they chose to take.

As soon as the consequences become apparent interest in project 2025 is going to drop off a cliff.

As soon as the consequences become apparent interest in project 2025 is going to drop off a cliff.

I want to believe

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 133 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Just removing the US from another world stage

Soon we will be completely irrelevant

Which is the plan

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Gonna be as isolated at North Korea by the end of this administration. As trusted too.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] King_Bob_IV@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

SEATO apparently. Did not know that existed

Southeast Asia Treaty Organization

[–] mapu@slrpnk.net 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (6 children)

I like this! It's a good thing for the EU to decouple from the US. The EU's military budget is definitely good enough, just very badly managed. This will push the EU to get its shit together and achieve proper autonomy. Only then it'll be able to enter international agreements on equal footing with other superpowers and not have it be a serfdom relationship in exchange for protection

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They want out because it's stopping to be a market for the US military industries, as Europe increasingly wants to spend domestically. As such, it now has very little interest.

US: We want you to spend more on defence!
Europe: Ok, we will buy more, from our own companies!
US: That's not what I meant! I'm going home!

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They want out because it’s stopping to be a market for the US military industries, as Europe increasingly wants to spend domestically. As such, it now has very little interest.

This is only happening because Drumpf is meddling with deliveries and contracts. It makes America an unreliable supplier and partner when a contract or agreement means nothing because the orange shiteweasel may change his mind tomorrow, and redirect the arms that you already paid for......

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're also threatening to annex or outright invade long-term allies. You don't want to be in a war where the people you're fighting against are the only ones who can maintain and replace your weapons.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And yet the UK is buying more American jets 🤦

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They wanted to leave during Trump’s first term because it helps Russia’s war with Europe

The increased spending is just meant to make the incumbents unpopular so the Russian backed candidates can win

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 284 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)

Look how stupid your country is, to hand the death of NATO to Putin because you’re on his side.

Thanks for the war and death and heat, Americans.

Fuck you.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 132 points 2 days ago (11 children)

We're pretty pissed off at ourselves right now too. I'm sorry things got this far and wish I could offer more than fear and frustration...

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's just stirring shit to get his name out there isn't he?

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Utahns generally don't like to draw attention to themselves as firebrands (e.g. Mitt Romney, Orrin Hatch), so methinks the Senator is planning to get into the 2028 presidential primary.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (27 children)

Honestly, NATO might be better off without them

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

If we attack the USA, can I get some land in North Carolina?

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[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 days ago (27 children)

I keep getting this sinking feeling that this is all leading up to a precise and coordinated attack of evil.

Russia bombards the EU, the US attacks Greenland and Canada, while Israel finally bulldozes Gaza and Iran. China takes Taiwan and the south sea.

All at the same time so NATO is overwhelmed and can’t decisively defend it all without risking spreading too thin. No matter what happens, one of the bad guys gains ground.

I honestly have no idea if this is even possible, it’s based on a dream I had a few weeks ago.

Disturbing thought though.

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