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And for the record, there was nothing even remotely racist in my comment. Dessalines just can't accept being wrong. π€·π»ββοΈ
UPDATE : I am (almost) sad to report the ban only extends to memes@lemmy.ml !
Also, I found the original comment, here it is (and if you see what's racist about it, please tell me, I'm open to being wrong about this, although I really doubt it) :
( Update 2 : cropped the second image properly )
They honestly believe the Pooh thing is racism because Pooh is yellow and yellow= Chinese racism.
It's beyond them that their chief bootwearer looks exactly like a certain cartoon bear
He's more orange than Pooh. Given that logic, is calling Trump "cheeto in chief" racist?
Only to the Cheetos, which are canonically cartoon cheetah orange.
@dessalines@lemmy.ml It's pretty embarassing that you're supposedly one of the lead lemmy devs yet don't understand that the modlog is public and we can see you're full of shit when you claim a comment like this is racist. Maybe if you spent more time actually developing and less time being red fascist you'd know how your own system works.
Lol if you manage to get a full site ban (shouldn't be too hard lmao) you'll unlock this achievement!
I saw that thread yesterday and decided it was not even worth entering the cesspool. I figured any criticism of China would be dismissed as either motivated or based on western propaganda.
Thanks for trying it in my place ter_maxima
Being a ml honestly takes so much mental gymnastics...from skipping both marx and lenins works entirely, touting stalin as a legitimate theorist, to simping for nationalist movements, doing racial pseudo science plus the intellectual leg work for large imperialist nations...it seems like a lot of work to me....and all to come across as a whiney sort of racist spoiled psuedo intellecual brat to the actual working class. Dont get me started on maoists who legitimately think that white people cant be proletarian. These two types of leftist specifically will do anything but try to understand what communism is.
They're not leftist though
They are just incredibility radicalized
And the post you got banned for isn't racist at all, unlike what the person who replied to you insinuated.
Dessalines seems to think the Winnie the Pooh likening is because Pooh is yellow and not because he is fat and round. Which, in a way, makes him the racist one.
The "Asian yellow skin" thing never made any sense to me. I've seen a ton of Asians, none of them were yellow, not even close. Xi Jinping has the same complexion as a white guy with a tan.
I think it was substantially influenced by the traditional four humours. Carl Linnaeus' work was not the first to call East Asians "yellow", but it was very widely spread and influential. He categorised humans into four races and associated each with one of the humours, then describing that race as having the characteristics associated with the humour (hence the equally-odd "red" description for Native Americans)
Lemmy: "China gov bad."
Lemmygrad: Source!? Banned for racism.
Lemmygrad: "USA gov bad."
Lemmy: Nods vigorously. Rambles in agreement.
Two governments canβt be bad at the same time. Thatβs just science.
Off topic, but I like your avatar. Is that from JL, YJ or something else?
What's funny is often the "USA government bad" isn't enough, and they have to pile on top until it's ridiculous.
Like, guys, we started this conversation with gulags. The Trail of Tears really isn't part of this conversation.
And also, like, we fucking know.
lemmy.dbzer0.com [chad]: βAll governments are badβ
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just made a piefed account, ee ended today.
Genocide of Tibetans
https://www.icj.org/new-report-the-question-of-tibet-and-the-rule-of-law/
Genocide of Uyghurs
Oppression of Taiwan
Thank you for compensating for my own laziness x)
Clearly this is all Western propaganda. Solely because it disagrees with Chinese propaganda /s
stayed until the last hour on lemm.ee
Went down with the ship, I did
No surprise. Dessalines is the reason I switched from lemmy to piefed once my instance anounced it's going to shut down...
Is piefed centered on communities instead of people, like Lemmy ? The reason I only use reddit-like social media is because I've never cared to follow individuals, but I do care about communities and shared interests.
Well, from my very limited experience point of view it is exactly 1:1 replacement of Lemmy.
It might not support 100% lemmy features, but generally it functions the same.
Probably gonna switch later today then π
You can even export your followed communities in lemmy and import them into piefed.
Donβt forget Nutomic.
Iβm sure they are might be nice people IRL but they are authoritarian as hell and have terrible political opinion.
Isn't Nutomic also transphobic? Not sure that falls under "nice people IRL"
True. I kinda forgot about that.
Damn these devs do so much bad shit, it has like a flood the zone with shit effect where you kinda forget.
Your instance is already hosting a PieFed instance on the side you can confirm here , its piefed.blahaj.zone
i know it is, im just waiting for full voyager support.
Mentioning both Taiwan and Tiananmen in one post?
Straight to jail.
What was the comment?
"This person wouldn't believe the sky was blue unless you linked a study proving it. The Huyghur genocide. Not recognizing the independence of Taiwan. The entire way their "democracy" functions. The lasting damage the "one child policy" has done to their demographics (by their own reporting, not the wild exaggerations of the West) You don't need to pick between the sides you're being offered today, don't fall for this false choice fallacy. Freedom isn't choosing the correct master to serve. If you disagree, I invite you to go to Tiananmen square wearing a Winnie the Pooh T-shirt and see what happens."
Wait, how can YOU see it ? Can everyone access removed comments in the mod log ?
Anyway, good job finding it before I did ! I added it to the post.
Well, admins can see removed comments and posts. But yes, the modlog is public and the removed content is also shown there.
congrats on your ban!
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