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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If yOu aRe nOt uNdEr cApItAlIsM It's yOuR OwN FaUlT

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (19 children)

it’s hard for people so used to the comforts of capitalism to realise this is actually luxury

being inside, seated comfortably, doing non-manual work, educated, can read, listening to music, this is a job better than 99% of people who have ever lived have had

Slaves who existed before capitalism was even imagined would dream of this WaSTeD LiFe 🤪

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

it’s hard for people so used to the comforts of capitalism to realise this is actually luxury

being inside, seated comfortably, doing non-manual work, educated, can read, listening to music, this is a job better than 99% of people who have ever lived have had

Hell, if you're in this situation you have immediate and convenient access to potable water in your living space. This is a level of privilege beyond almost every other human that has lived in all of history.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 3 points 12 hours ago

Ya, totally. You make an obvious point.
The only problem with that is that almost all of the humans that have ever existed ... exist right now. Until we mastered this planet, there were very very few of us. We are now the most numerous mammal on the planet, and that's by a far degree. There's more of us than there are rats.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah but most humans didn't have to live around cars. I'd give up running water to get rid of cars. Cars are worse than running water is good. Sign me up for carrying barrels from the river if I don't need to worry about being run over.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

How much experience do you have with third world conditions? I would tend to assume from what you are saying that you've never seen what a lack of sanitation does to a society.
But you might be well familiar with all of this ... and just like it?

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 0 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Not the person who you replied to, but if you could trade all the cars in the world to go back to using rainwater to shower/flush toilets and buy drink water I think we should take that deal.

It has already been proven countless times that having walkable/bikeable cities with the adition of public transport is better for our health and the environment. Most countries don't even have drinkable water out of the tap anyway.

The only issue is that it doesn't rain enough in a lot of countries to keep up with our water usage for showering/flushing toilets, but infrastructure to move water is as old as the Roman's, so we would find a way again.

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[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's still capitalism, genius

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

adjusted for people who cannot see the difference between free market wage labour in a western economy and literal slavery

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

Problems like infant mortality, disease, manual labour, the human species evolved to deal with those. That's why exercise releases endorphins. Your body is rewarding you for doing what you need to survive. It has strategies to soften those blows and keep you going. Because you have to.

There are no biological coping mechanisms for cars, city noise, pollution, and financial anxiety. These problems didn't exist in the ancestral environment. Evolution hasn't had time to protect us from them. They might not hit as hard in the moment, but we can't heal from the losses they cause us. That's why chronic stress, suicide, depression and anxiety are so common nowadays. This is worse. Maybe not in objective germs, but it's worse for a human being. It hits us in our weak points.

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[–] edupo@europe.pub 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 13 hours ago

People here seem pretty happy. I guess thd government should do something about the youth unemployment rate, but the average chinese I see on the street seems to be leading a more fulfilling life than the average american. People can afford rent, to go out and eat every day, and save a little, I dont know anyone back home like that.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I guess you don't work under communism.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (30 children)

Yeah, people didn't. They didn't give a shit about the "collective" farms. They worked because they were forced to and fucked it up for everyone because there was no difference between giving it your all and slacking off. Hundreds of microfarms worked better than one large collective one because they didn't think it was "ours" they thought it was "nobodys".

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