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.ml world "news" continuing to be an excellent source of journalism and definitely NOT contributing to the spread of Putin talking points!/s (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 weeks ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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This is the kind of content the .ml admins cultivate through their bans and censorship. They'll frequently remove articles from credible good sources that directly go against their narratives, while allowing misinformation and conspiracy websites to include RT, Sputnik and (as shown) random substack blogs as long as they tow the narratives that align with them.

E.g. Ukraine is a Nazi regime and Russia is just "liberating" the Ukrainian people

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 70 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They're still pushing the "Ukraine are Nazis, here's zero proof!" narrative?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This is all just what I remember from research years ago, but at one point there was a pretty large chunk of nazis/sympathizers in azov specifically. They cracked down on extremism since then, but it's conceivable there's a few left.

Now using that to call every single Ukrainian servicemember and child a nazi to justify actual imperialism? Average braindead tankie take.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Do they know how Wagner got its name?

[–] bobby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 weeks ago

They cracked down on extremism since then, but it’s conceivable there’s a few left.

Also the most extreme ones are the ones that died first and after broad mobilization the relative proportion shrank naturally. That's just maths.

And even if these two were not the case, Ukraine has a simple explanation:

When asked about one of the two Russian groups fighting on Ukraine's side, one being extreme racists who want to make Russia smaller to get rid of regions with non-Russian ethnicities, a government official, maybe even Zelensky personally, said to the press that Ukraine does not have the luxury to pick who fights on their side when the alternative is rape and genocide.

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 55 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

This is why I don't donate to the devs because it indirectly goes to .ml. This is also why people think Lemmy is nothing but tankies because they're ok with that image.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

This is also why people think Lemmy is nothing but tankies because they're ok with that image.

Which is why I advocate for pushing large instances, like .world, to defederate as they have for the other 2 instances in the Triad

We can't force .ml offline and we can't force them to install an actually unbiased and fair admin team.

But we can control our association with them, if the rest of the network defeds from them at the very least we can all say "yea they're there, but we've cut ourselves off from them because they're nuts" and I think that could go very far

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i’m so glad piefed is picking up steam! once voyager support is good i’m done with lemmy and donating to piefed

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I recommended to people to go to Lemmy, and then I got told "you mean the place where it is full of tankies?" Tankies give the entire community a bad name.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 51 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)

The story at present has 9 upvotes, 12 downvotes. The OP posted:

If any salty Nazi cheerleaders want to complain that this isn’t a news source, you’re wrong. This is an active military correspondent’s blog giving a timeline for events which are not debatable. Better luck next time.

… which has 4 upvotes and 1 downvote.

I would bet money that one or two of the upvotes on it are from the .ml moderation/admin team.

[–] FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 16 points 3 weeks ago

dessalines upvoted it

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I tried using lemvotes.org to check the votes, but I have had trouble getting that site to work for checking votes on some comments. Not sure why.

Edit: also having trouble checking votes on the post as well. Odd.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 28 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I think lemmy.ml defederated from them.

Every other site more or less doesn't care. Your Lemmy votes are not private. But, lemmy.ml as always cares deeply about controlling the narrative, and talking about who is voting and how and how often particular .ml users feature in the voting patterns, disrupts their ability to pretend that they're standing up for normalcy and a handful of isolated "liberal" instances are the weird ones who love censorship.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

I think whatever shadow instance lemvotes uses either doesn't federate with .ml or .ml blocked it (I can't imagine why they'd do that though!/s lmao)

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[–] guy@piefed.social 46 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Oh damn, they're not even pretending to not being a Russian mouthpiece anymore?

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago

I don't remember a time where they attempted to pretend. It's just recently they started getting heavy with the site wide bans though.

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[–] illi@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago

I just encountered the OP of that post today, saying EU is not real. You just can't with these people.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 21 points 3 weeks ago

Damn they are still shilling that 3 years into this war.

Jfc... They need to call their handlers and get updated talking point

This is pathetic level propaganda

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 19 points 3 weeks ago

Mmm yes, must be a very reasonable author that goes by the name "AVATAR OF VENGEANCE" on the internet

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

.ml is great if you need to borrow some crayons. But that's pretty much all they're good for.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago

i’d prefer to borrow crayons without having to dig them out of peoples noses tyvm

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

.ml was the most tolerable of the tankie triad to me for a long time, but I eventually blocked it as they got worse and worse.

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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

well just blacklist them, make it an echo chamber so it doesn't show literally anywhere else in the fediverse

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