Remember how clean the air was when most people were working from home?
But shareholder value is more important.
Good luck to this woman finding good employees. Good employees have a choice.
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2025
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“Why don’t people want to hang out with me?”
"My only friends are people on my payroll."
"People don't want to hang out with me unless I pay them"
Unfortunately, there is no shortage of sadistic people like this who bond together just fine.
"Hard truth I learned as a CEO: Sometimes you have to lie to get what you want, regardless of reality and facts"
Anyone who thinks more work gets done in the office is an idiot, or lying.
Eh, it depends. I find that there is a benefit in highly collaborative projects or in an environment where training is a component.
For instance, a lot of data showed that junior staff productivity tanked as they didn't have the mentoring opportunities that they would have had in a full remote environment.
right now I am hiding in a call booth in my office on our one in person day a week because the rest of the office is singing along to achy breaky heart while two junior employees throw lifesaver mints at each other.
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I am the team lead and architect for my group. We have green engineers and interns. The other day my team was publically acknowledged as being one of the most productive and well oiled teams because of the detail I put in. On a weekly basis I am doing mentoring activities and 1 on 1s with everyone. And I still find time to be writing specs, design documents, code, and hour of meetings.
It requires very little effort. What I have found is that the vast number of leads and managers just aren't good at teaching or helping others. It's not a face to face issue. It's soft skills, logistics, and actually wanting a good team issue. All I am doing is the opposite of what all my bad managers did.
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Do many people get mentored in the office? I have worked for decades and have never been mentored.
Edit: I assume random, one off comments don't count as mentoring. "Don't put your feed up on the desk" isn't mentoring right?
Between interns and junior engineers, I'd say I am doing about 0.5 to 1 day a week of 1 on 1 work with all of them. Sometimes it's direct problem solving and other times it's going over topics they are interested in. The last few weeks have been on development processes and workflows, time management and getting things done, presentations and soft skills. I even helped one work on interviewing.
If I can train them to be amazing at their next job chances are they stick around longer and do great things here.
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Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone's jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.
Work is actually one of the worst places to get your social enrichment. You're significantly more likely to change jobs than cities and your innie is less likely to feel like your true self. Furthermore there's a baseline mental taxation of being at work that doesn't come with being in a social environment. And nobody's going to come up to you at a social event and tell you to get back to work.
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I could spend 3 hours a day on a train and do teams meetings in the office, or i could not do 3 hours a day on trains and do teams meetings at home.
I was paying £550 a month in train tickets before covid freed me
It amazes me that leaders don't get this. My office is filled with separate one-sided calls and it's unbearable. Furthermore I've not been in a meeting without Silicon Valley listening in in at least 5 years.
They do get it but they don't care. They want you to be uncomfortable and miserable because it keeps up the value of their commercial real estate portfolio .
Also tax breaks. Many large corpos negotiated city tax breaks for bringing a certain number of employees into downtowns. If those numbers don't meet minimums, the tax breaks go away.
Any we all know how much time, effort and expense a business person will go through to avoid paying $1 in taxes.
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Does she think sleepless nights are going to improve mental health?
I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.
That being said, this CEO is stupid, loneliness is not cured by being forced to interact with people that I need to be paid to interact with.
I also realize that just because I find the office beneficial, does not mean I get to dictate how other people should feel about it.
I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.
Some people do.
The trick about remote work is not that it lets us all work from home, but that it gives us another location and we can pick our best environment.
I found a job that promises "work from anywhere in the country", and many people min-maxed their location for profit. They only have to match time-zone to ensure they're punched in during 'business hours' (and, for some, starting later in their day to synch with the home office is f'n awesome).
But they still maintain "hotel" spots, two of them permanent. People did find some days or many days in the office each week is their jam. Some come and go as per their current needs and best environment. One of my peers went camping, and did a server update over VPN over starlink over smores, and then put the laptop away for the weekend. He was proving he can camp while on-call.
Sometimes I like my view. Sometimes I need a featureless wall to cut down on distractions. I find what is best and I rock that shit. And that's what it's about: find your best space.
When the only space is Office Space, then there is no freedom to find that environment where you crush it today, and that needs to be seen as an impairment. Let us pick our time and place and - sun tzu - victory is assured.
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This person probably goes to the office and sits in her own private room by herself, because she can't focus with the loud plebs on the big open office floor
This person arrives at 10, has a 1.5hour lunch, talks loudly around other people, leaves at 2 because needs to pick up the dog from the dog sitter, complains people are never in the office, only shows up 2 days a week if you're unlucky, 0 days if you're lucky.
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Yeah, when I'm looking for sound mental health advice, I ask a CEO. Doesn't everyone?
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I suspect this is mainly because almost all of the CEOs I’ve met are workaholics, and being “at work” is the only way they can self-validate.
And remember, most of them are dark-personality traits, which explains why they cannot understand why you don’t want to go in
Time to go back to the office and have still all meeting online with extra background noise. Looking for a quiet corner to be able to hear others properly is great for my mental health.
Also the office life improves my soft skills, like:
- walking with my laptop open im my hand with a headset on to find an empty meeting room
- sharing desks with annoying co-workers from other departments
- enjoying other peoples conversations about their lunch plans from the other side of the open plan office
- fighting for the thermostat setting and opening/closing the windows
- embracing the daily multi-hour commute in rush hours
It really builds character.
Your office windows can be opened ? Luxury!
After writing that I feel I may need to clarify that I mean actual physical windows in an office building, not some self opening Microsoft product.
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Ah yes. The lament of the middle managers with nothing to do. They feel threatened because it turns out they weren't needed after all.
I work from home, and my manager works from home also. He's not even in the same country as me.
Not all middle management has a thing for insisting people work from the office.
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"Hard truth" she just made up to fit her own narrative without recourse to facts.
"Hi, I'm a shitty person who has an opinion that is self-serving. Let me tell you what I think."
If my next job is office only. I'm strictly only using a desktop PC. You can give me a travel laptop. But I'm never taking it home.
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Yes yes.. RTO is all about restoring the productivity and mental health of the worker. Ignore the declining property value of commercial buildings. Tell me again who stands to gain the most by increasing commercial property value? Ah yeah that's right; Billionaires. Interesting, at the bottom of every social problem we seen to find a billionaire.
Where is this energy during lay off season? No issues witb potentially 90k hours of social bonding gone to provide better executive bonuses.
Every single one of my jobs in the last 5 years or so has stated that remote work has undeniably increased productivity and output, as well as general morale.
Many of them have sold all their offices so they couldn't even RTO if they wanted to.
For some reason one of them still keeps the 7 floor office building and even a receptionist and security guard...despite about 5 people working from there on any given day. But hey, whatever.
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Codie A Sanchez does a lot less work WFH, is what I took from this.
I'm in the office right now, and 99% of my meetings are through Teams.
My favorite days to be here are when everyone else is somewhere else.
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Being promoted to the C-suite causes brain damage.
This person is a disgrace.
This person is purposely being controversial for attention, they don't truly think this, nor is there any evidence productivity has gone down due to remote work.
Going into the office every day is a scam.
Lol, immediately revealing that for her work is only pointless zoom meetings. Real productivity there ms CEO 😑
Honestly to a degree I see the vision but sadly the way most workplaces are organized won't improve your mental health either.
I worked in the stupid open office space these assholes designed for years. It. Sucked. Distractions everywhere. I couldn't focus on anything. Now I get double the work done in half the time and I don't have a pain in the ass commute. The hubris of assuming what works for you will work for everyone is astounding.
Thank you sooo much for your very presence. We are sooo grateful for your wisdom...
Go fuck yourself with a rusty railroad spike.
Linked in is a cancer.
LPT: when you're this incoherent it's time to reassess your meds.
Investing millions in main st businesses
Obviously a commercial real estate investor, weak gaslighting attempt though.
She knows those who schlepped into offices before Covid realize how much better remote is for everyone, so tries to target kids who are fresh out of school and didn’t necessarily experience that dichotomy.
The majority of people I would benefit most from being in person with aren't in the same country as me.
Sleepless nights for whom? My employer? Ahahah
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