Codie A Sanchez does a lot less work WFH, is what I took from this.
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Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone's jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.
Work is actually one of the worst places to get your social enrichment. You're significantly more likely to change jobs than cities and your innie is less likely to feel like your true self. Furthermore there's a baseline mental taxation of being at work that doesn't come with being in a social environment. And nobody's going to come up to you at a social event and tell you to get back to work.
Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone’s jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.
Nah, I'm good thanks
Fair enough, it will help with loneliness though. And I'll acknowledge it's hard and awkward at first, but it's a skill and it's one I think many people would appreciate developing. It's like getting in shape but for the social part of the self.
Even if I felt lonely, none of those things are how I would start talking to anyone.
When I'm in public I wish to be left alone. It would be a violation of the Golden Rule for me to start talking to randos about their outfits or the weather.
lmao. ikr. Extroverts just don't get it. 😔
Yeah, when I'm looking for sound mental health advice, I ask a CEO. Doesn't everyone?
What if it's the CEO of mental health
CEOs almost never have the skills and experience in actually doing the work of their company. I and other techs have had to do IT work for the CEOs of our IT support company. Plus one of them accidentally opened a phishing email.
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This person probably goes to the office and sits in her own private room by herself, because she can't focus with the loud plebs on the big open office floor
This person arrives at 10, has a 1.5hour lunch, talks loudly around other people, leaves at 2 because needs to pick up the dog from the dog sitter, complains people are never in the office, only shows up 2 days a week if you're unlucky, 0 days if you're lucky.
This person is purposely being controversial for attention, they don't truly think this, nor is there any evidence productivity has gone down due to remote work.
Going into the office every day is a scam.
If my next job is office only. I'm strictly only using a desktop PC. You can give me a travel laptop. But I'm never taking it home.
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I suspect this is mainly because almost all of the CEOs I’ve met are workaholics, and being “at work” is the only way they can self-validate.
And remember, most of them are dark-personality traits, which explains why they cannot understand why you don’t want to go in
"Hard truth I learned as a CEO: Sometimes you have to lie to get what you want, regardless of reality and facts"
Anyone who thinks more work gets done in the office is an idiot, or lying.
Eh, it depends. I find that there is a benefit in highly collaborative projects or in an environment where training is a component.
For instance, a lot of data showed that junior staff productivity tanked as they didn't have the mentoring opportunities that they would have had in a full remote environment.
I am the team lead and architect for my group. We have green engineers and interns. The other day my team was publically acknowledged as being one of the most productive and well oiled teams because of the detail I put in. On a weekly basis I am doing mentoring activities and 1 on 1s with everyone. And I still find time to be writing specs, design documents, code, and hour of meetings.
It requires very little effort. What I have found is that the vast number of leads and managers just aren't good at teaching or helping others. It's not a face to face issue. It's soft skills, logistics, and actually wanting a good team issue. All I am doing is the opposite of what all my bad managers did.
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right now I am hiding in a call booth in my office on our one in person day a week because the rest of the office is singing along to achy breaky heart while two junior employees throw lifesaver mints at each other.
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I could spend 3 hours a day on a train and do teams meetings in the office, or i could not do 3 hours a day on trains and do teams meetings at home.
I was paying £550 a month in train tickets before covid freed me
It amazes me that leaders don't get this. My office is filled with separate one-sided calls and it's unbearable. Furthermore I've not been in a meeting without Silicon Valley listening in in at least 5 years.
They do get it but they don't care. They want you to be uncomfortable and miserable because it keeps up the value of their commercial real estate portfolio .
Also tax breaks. Many large corpos negotiated city tax breaks for bringing a certain number of employees into downtowns. If those numbers don't meet minimums, the tax breaks go away.
Any we all know how much time, effort and expense a business person will go through to avoid paying $1 in taxes.
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"Hi, I'm a shitty person who has an opinion that is self-serving. Let me tell you what I think."
Rage bait for engagement.
performative rage bait, for sure
LPT: when you're this incoherent it's time to reassess your meds.
Remember how clean the air was when most people were working from home?
But shareholder value is more important.
Good luck to this woman finding good employees. Good employees have a choice.
Ah yes. The lament of the middle managers with nothing to do. They feel threatened because it turns out they weren't needed after all.
Managers of technical people are required, but in an efficient organisation there is no need to have layer to manage those managers.
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Time to go back to the office and have still all meeting online with extra background noise. Looking for a quiet corner to be able to hear others properly is great for my mental health.
Also the office life improves my soft skills, like:
- walking with my laptop open im my hand with a headset on to find an empty meeting room
- sharing desks with annoying co-workers from other departments
- enjoying other peoples conversations about their lunch plans from the other side of the open plan office
- fighting for the thermostat setting and opening/closing the windows
- embracing the daily multi-hour commute in rush hours
It really builds character.
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“Why don’t people want to hang out with me?”
Unfortunately, there is no shortage of sadistic people like this who bond together just fine.
Lol, immediately revealing that for her work is only pointless zoom meetings. Real productivity there ms CEO 😑
Sleepless nights for whom? My employer? Ahahah
Does she think sleepless nights are going to improve mental health?
I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.
That being said, this CEO is stupid, loneliness is not cured by being forced to interact with people that I need to be paid to interact with.
I also realize that just because I find the office beneficial, does not mean I get to dictate how other people should feel about it.
I couldn't work from home but I really like coworking spaces.
Rather than having to commute all the way to the main office I have an office located 5 min away from home.
This way I do have an office, coworkers but without the long commute.
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"Hard truth" she just made up to fit her own narrative without recourse to facts.
This person is a disgrace.
I'm in the office right now, and 99% of my meetings are through Teams.
My favorite days to be here are when everyone else is somewhere else.
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Yes yes.. RTO is all about restoring the productivity and mental health of the worker. Ignore the declining property value of commercial buildings. Tell me again who stands to gain the most by increasing commercial property value? Ah yeah that's right; Billionaires. Interesting, at the bottom of every social problem we seen to find a billionaire.
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Investing millions in main st businesses
Obviously a commercial real estate investor, weak gaslighting attempt though.
She knows those who schlepped into offices before Covid realize how much better remote is for everyone, so tries to target kids who are fresh out of school and didn’t necessarily experience that dichotomy.
Honestly to a degree I see the vision but sadly the way most workplaces are organized won't improve your mental health either.
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