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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Legislation sounds very positive for the environment. The article does say that shooting ranges are exempt as they have lead/bullet recovery systems in place and this legislation is more about protecting waterways and forests from being (further) polluted with lead shot. Military and police are excluded probably for the same reason as almost all their shooting is on-range.

The article doesn't mention and I was hoping someone knows - what's the common alternative metals used for rifle rounds and shotgun shells? Steel balls for shotguns?

Does it make a big difference to shooting/ballistics, as the alternatives would be less-dense than lead?

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

A quick search says steel, tungsten and bismuth or composites including those metals are the typical replacements. Steel is cheap, and the other two are dense but more expensive.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Should outright ban this primitive and archaic hobby.

[–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

I mean regardless of your position on hunting, it's also good to do this in general as it'll also mean those who clay pigeon shoot and similar won't be polluting specific areas with lead.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It’s good to practice, because one day you may need to shoot fascists.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

Especially if they start throwing clay pigeons.

[–] karma@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The solution to the gun problem is always more guns

Fascists don't need guns to kill people, they have masks and cages.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The solution to guns is to ensure that only the state can ever have guns.

Why? Because the state will never be taken over by bad actors who seek to destroy democracy and institute autocracy.

The well-meaning liberal-minded and just people in power today will be in power tomorrow and forever, so we can always trust them to have all guns, hold the cryptography backdoors for all consumer electronics, hold the reins on banking, have sophisticated mass surveillance capabilities, curtail free speech and open protest, and so on. Because they’ll never use their power to intimidate rumblings of labor unionization, clamp down on people advocating for Palestinian people, disproportionately imprison brown people and immigrants for infractions that white people walk away from consequence-free, and so on.

And they’ll certainly never use their far-reaching powers to dismantle democracy and implement fascism. That’ll never happen, because it can’t happen in the West anymore - so don’t even worry about it.

Why must we trust the state so much? Because terrorism must not win, and we’ll never ever change what the poorly-defined word “terrorism” means on a whim based on current perceived political enemies or anything.

[–] bier@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that gun is going to do so much when the state bombs you or sends a drone.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, just statistically you are more likely to kill yourself with your own gun than kill a Nazi with it. 🤷

[–] Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Indeed!

This is not to say that separately they shouldn’t separately and sooner (more easily) ban lead.

https://youtu.be/qYWc22wuQVc

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -5 points 3 days ago