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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The ending of a series can completely destroy all the meaning and character development of said series.

Or let me put it differently:

Essentially what this is saying is "it's about the journey, not the destination", but ultimately it's a pretty flawed notion. It doesn't matter how pretty the journey is if you're going to someplace to get tortured or beaten.

Also, as far as people go; you may cure cancer, but you can still suck. Steve Jobs sucked. He died a stupid death because he didn't listen to anyone about curing an easily curable cancer. Something which also defined his career, as he never listened to anyone about computers and technology, meaning his stuff sucked all the way up to the 90s.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

The last season of GoT invalidated all of the growth that was witnessed in all the previous seasons, ruining the story.

How I Met Your Mother's last season broke a spell that was over me, thinking that any of the characters were decent people. And allowed me to look at the whole thing without any of the nostalgia that carried me throughout the show. Was a young adult with questionable opinions that got better as I got older. The show seems to have never done so. And so I can say that the bad season did ruin the rest of the show, as I may have never given it a critcal eye if they had written it better.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 29 points 12 hours ago

Except that isn't the same logic?

A show's ending is the culmination of its plotlines. A bad ending essentially invalidates all the plot development of the show.

Similar logic applied to a human would be if someone spent all their life trying to cure cancer and told everyone about how they were about to release the cure to then, suddenly, abandon the project, destroy all research so no one else can use it, and fuck off to retire in Tahiti.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 hours ago

What a stupid logic.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If a story doesn't have a satisfying conclusion, then I would say starting the story is pointless.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

in the same way, if someone cures cancer and fucks one chicken....

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I heard it was an osterich. Allegedly.

[–] simple@piefed.social 104 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Disagreed, there are many shows that spend seasons building on the ending that if the ending is really bad, it makes the rest of the show feel pointless.

[–] Neondragon25@piefed.social 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GoT comes to my mind with this. The whole show are these giant buildup to the war in the north, the dragons, Westeros power grabs, Jamie's character arc, children of the forest, and other cool concepts that ended in a pathetic wet fart of a final season. It makes watching the show feel like a waste. when you know at the end its just a wet fart.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Having the white walkers built up as an unimaginable threat for the entire series only to be toppled by catapult Arya was the biggest wet-fart turd on a wagyu steak dinner.

[–] Neondragon25@piefed.social 9 points 16 hours ago

Unimaginable horrors beyond your comprehension Ends up just being some popsicle ass MFs who all die when the lead Mcfrozen nuts gets shanked.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Grim comes to mind. It ended so abruptly I just regret watching it at all.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 12 hours ago

Ugh why did you remind me of this? Grimm was such a good show only to just fucking nosedive right off a cliff one day.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Shows sort of suck after about the 5th episode. They all start doing filler at some point.

[–] III@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

You should go back and watch network television shows. There's so much post-commercial recap, start of the episode recap, "gotta fill my 43 minutes" and "gotta make 20 episodes" filler that you will greatly appreciate modern streaming shows.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Really putting the "ass" in comparison there. Also, if a person say... wrote a best selling beloved children's book series, but then heel-turned into a piece of shit, it absolutely does ruin their entire body of work for a lot of people.

Like, this happens, what is the comic even talking about?

[–] EvilFonzy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Context can certainly change over time. If Rudy Giuliani died in 2002, he'd be remembered as 'America's Mayor'.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 9 points 20 hours ago

How cruel a joke it must be for a God to create beings that crave consistency in a universe where the only consistent thing is change.

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Really feels like the comic artist wrote 'died like an idiot' to argue against himself in bad faith from the get go

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

If a show tells you it's building to something, then fails to deliver, it has disrespected all the time and effort invested.

See:

Lost
Battlestar Galactica
How I Met Your Mother

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Or when it ends on a cliffhanger just to get canceled. That really ruins how I feel about a show.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 18 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I think both "the show had 5 great seasons but a terrible ending" is as bad as "the show has 3 bad seasons but the last 2 are great!" are equally bad and reasons that I would not watch something.

It's not like there aren't hundreds of other options.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I guess I agree except The Good Place season 1 is a must watch. Later seasons fell off a bit and pushed my suspension of disbelief in places, but if you don't care about the ultimate plot you can just watch S01 and call it a day.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

Babylon 5 was a great show... with this caveat:

  1. Season 1 is slow and you won't know how important it is until you watch 2, 3, 4.

  2. Season 4 is the single best season of sci fi television ever produced, but you have to have seen 2 and 3 to fully appreciate it.

  3. The reason Season 4 is amazing is because they didn't know they were getting a Season 5 so they stuffed 2 seasons worth of television into 1.

  4. Then they got renewed for Season 5 by a different network and were like "Season 5... um... yeah! We totally have a plan for that... Yeah... totally ready to go."

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 day ago

What no? A show has a narrative structure - buildup to a disappointing end devalues all of that which came before.

A narrative and a person ain't the same. It also follows that we evaluate them differently

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago

"Too late, I've already drawn you as the soyjack"

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago

Let's say you build a bridge. You build the nicest on-ramp, you put the nicest lamp posts, the nicest pavement, and the most beautiful railings in the history of bridges. And the bridge ends on a cliff. There might be some nice views on top of the bridge to nowhere, but it's a bridge to nowhere.

That's a work of fiction with a bad ending. A work of fiction is a work, not a person, so where it leads to is very much an integral part of the work.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This comic is out of touch with the politics of Netflix style script writing where there's no story arc being followed.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Do Netflix shows even get to a finale? Unless its an enormous hit like squid game or stranger things, they just cancel it.

[–] moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

We absolutely do apply these to people. Kevin Spacey? Bill Cosby? Jeffrey Epstein? Jared Fogle? Joe Paterno? Louis CK? Chris Brown? P. Diddy? Harvey Weinstein? OJ Simpson?

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

meh. if people report that the ending of a show was terrible, i'm not going to watch it, no matter how "good" the rest of it was.

similarly, if someone turned nazi at the end of their life, i'm calling them an asshole, no matter what they did before that

also, comparing tv shows to people's actual lives is a dubious half ass analogy

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Like a punchline is to a joke, the ending is the most important part of a story. The conclusion gives the journey meaning. Blowing the ending can - and often does - retroactively ruin an entire narrative. This comic is akin to saying “a bad punchline doesn’t ruin a whole joke.” It does. In the same way, a bad or missing conclusion undermines the narrative as a whole.

[–] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 9 points 23 hours ago

A Person isn't a story though the ending being rubbish rings the whole story

[–] DominatorX1@thelemmy.club 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

JK Rowling.

(I meant this satirically.)

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Meanwhile you have BNA:Brand New Animal, A show with an ending so bad it taints everything that leads up to it. I have never seen a show undermine its own message like that.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

This comic has a solid set-up, but the punchline is weak.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had been meaning to start Game of Thrones, but hearing that the ending sucks kind of killed all interest for me.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem with Game of Thrones is this:

They ran out of material to adapt. They hit a wall where they ran out of books and had to adapt Martin's PowerPoint slides, and it shows!

[–] scops@reddthat.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there was a lot more going on than that. Benioff and Weiss wanted out. They wanted to collect all their accolades and move on to fresh IPs. HBO was happy to give them more money and time to construct full-length seasons, but they chose to push the last two with shorter runs.

I think if they had handed the show off to fresh showrunners ready to build on the existing plot threads and pacing of the show, we'd be looking back on it very differently.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 4 points 21 hours ago

Yeah. There are a lot of story beats that everyone knows GRRM would write (if he only cared to continue the series) and those story beats were in the show. They had enough material to work with, they simply chose to rush through all of it.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Well when the preceding story is contingent on it leading to a satisfying conclusion, that being 99% of the shows I've seen critiqued this way... I'd say it's a valid conclusion.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 6 points 1 day ago

I'm sorry someone criticized your fav, comic guy :(

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Surely if I satirize people who trash my favorite show, it'll make me feel better about how it took a shit at the end."

Was it Game of Thrones? If so, don't worry, that's not applicable either way,

becauseit was always shit.

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nah first few seasons of GoT were peak TV. Then they shit all over it.

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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's almost like stories are different from people and stories are comprised to a beginning middle and end. The only time this doesn't count is if the series is not serial based and a mess of episodic with serial through arcs.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

I mean it varries a lot, a lot of shows put huge emphasis on building up to an ending.

I would say probably the biggest example would be lost... it feels like it's building up to something special all throughout... it's just like "a few more pieces and it will finally make sense".

Then you get an ending that... well if anything can be improved with small edits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXIOA_sgZoo

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Show: Look! Look here! The shiny! Ooooh what might it be?! Oooh something's going to happen at the end! Just you wait! Just you watch to see what it is! Ooooh shiny! ... psych it all turns out to be dumb bullshit.

You: Ah well, at least I got to see shiny.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Every single person of note in Canada, lauded for building something good in Canada, for all Canadians, is eventually found to have cursed out a left-handed albino otter one day on a Monday, and is thus Satan incarnate.

Here we chastise people in glass houses from throwing stones; but we also don't respect a redemption story or long-lasting contributions in case Buddy had a bad day once.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

Could you give an example?

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