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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

He likely expects they’ll just bribe him off like CBS and ABC did. I don’t see that happening in this case and if WSJ sticks to their guns, discovery is likely to turn up a lot more dirt. Get your popcorn ready.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

Doesn't it being true make it not libel, also it can't be so absurd that people won't Belive it.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

For a successful suit, since he is a public figure, he would have to prove that the letter was demonstrably false and that either they knew it was false or they acted with willful disregard to the truth despite serious substantial doubts about its validity (his trying to threaten them into not publishing it doesn't qualify). If this letter in question was in an album among many others gathered more than two decade ago, was in Epstein's possession for all of those years until investogators found it and took it into evidence in 2019, has Trump's signature on it, etc.... well, good luck proving it is fake, let alone that they should have known it was. Cuz it's clearly real, and they have the receipts.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Discovery and depositions are going to be delicious.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 18 points 7 hours ago

Lawsuit to be stopped before discovery.

... or will it? Can he or his minions even be convicted of perjury any more?

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 65 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They have the letter in their possession. This suit will go nowhere. Also 'assault'? Some lawyer wants to get chewed out by a judge.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The suit isn't intended to go anywhere, like most of A trumps personal lawsuits. It's about giving the illusion someone else did something wrong. And once people forget about it because other shit is in the media, they'll quietly drop it. In the meantime it forces the WSJ to waste money and lawyer's time defending a frivolous lawsuit.

[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

i dunno, i think there's a pretty good chance the wsj just bends over and issues a retraction and apology without ever going to court, so trump gets to claim another legal """win"""

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Actually, wouldn't it be good if a judge were to confirm that the article was accurate along with the described letter? As good as it gets if you can all but publish a copy of it, no?

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I want it entered into the public record.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

FOIA request if needed...

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, having it all out in court is the best option.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Anti-anti-SLAPP EO getting signed in 3... 2...

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 36 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I know that media quality has gone down recently but this isn’t WSJ’s first rodeo. Even with conflicting interests from their boss Murdoch. I’m hoping they wouldn’t go with this story if there wasn’t more fuel to add to the fire.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 29 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

You don’t print that unless you’ve at least seen a copy, probably not without being able to show it as well. If somehow Murdoch has turned on him, he now can access discovery, which would be wild.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 8 points 7 hours ago

Yeah this wasn't published before the company lawyers had a good long look at the article

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I don't think it's a turn. I think it's like you said. They have hard evidence and even Murdock knows it's better to keep that shit in house. Whoever the source is would have gone elsewhere. That's not something that gets pushed under the rug.

The source for this clearly can't be paid off to stay quiet. Going to the WSJ first is absolutely on purpose.

If I had to make a wild guess. Maxwell. Only person that would have a bombshell like this with hard evidence. I think it's a warning shot too. I really doubt there isn't more.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago

Happy cake day!

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Trump's response was entirely predictable so I presume that they predicted it and planned for it.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Really? I thought it was weak for Trump. He usually is a lot better at forming a bit of a narrative around his lie. He seems a little scared and off to be honest.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

I just meant that the libel suit was predictable. Trump does seem shaken. I suppose that's because this time the most fanatical of his followers are the outraged ones.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Murdoch has fkn deep pockets.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 9 hours ago

Yes, I was thinking he has more money and clout than the other guy.

[–] match@pawb.social 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

i hope they declare totally vendetta and the leopards have their own civil war

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Oh, please, please, please!

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago