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Westerners need to realize that this also extents to the countries that support Israel. If you still support the USA, or the UK, or Germany, there is as much something wrong with you as a person as any Israel supporter.
Lol you think the West has just become the baddies?
What 2025?
This monstrosity should've never been created.
Netanyahu must be stopped. And Israel supporters too. Maybe the UK should take all Israelis people and give back the land tho its rightful owners… free Palestine!
Is the site down for anyone else? I've been trying to read this article for a couple days but it looks like it got the Lemmy hug of death!
Supporting Israel at any time was wrong. Israel is an invader.
100% agree.
but want to sprinkle a wee bit of nuance.
Israel had (and still has) a massive propaganda campaign.
given information available, it would be easy for most people to come up with a vague "both sides" issue, or "they are terrorists and Israel is doing what it can to protect civilians from jihadi islamists"... Unless someone tried digging a bit and learn for themselves.
However, after this latest phase of the genocide, everyone has seen dismembered babies, the endless humanitarian nightmares. and it wasn't hiding anywhere, everyone on practically every social media saw it.
After this genocide, the only way anyone could support Israel, is if they have serious deficiency in some basic human emotions.
They are settlers, they NEED to do genocide, the premise of Israel is a "jewish first state". Its not a country like china or switzerland or nepal.
Even in 850 BCE they were genociding the Canaanites.
Yes.
Or as I prefer to phrase it, anyone who can look at what Israel is doing in Gaza without feeling horror, pity and revulsion is a monster.
2025? I guess better late than never because no one in their right mind should ever support this violent ethno-nationalist exclusionary apartheid state.
100% this. it's a pill many people still don't want to swallow. how you could deny there's a genocide and Israel is a bad actor is beyond me. there's literal children who know better
Not after the IDF gets to them...
Not gonna lie, I feel like 2025 is way too generous. The only reason so many people are suddenly opposing Israel is because the overturn window has shifted and it is no longer popular to support Israel.
the overturn window
The what now?
The Overton window describes the range of ideas and policies considered acceptable by the mainstream population at a given time.
Basically "things you are allowed to say without people thinking you are weird."
Israel government is especially bad but i would like to extend this to pretty much any government around the world. The genocide in gaza is possible only thanks to the support and aid of other states.
If you're still supporting your government in 2025, there's something wrong with you as a person, you are most likely too selfish and don't care much about others.
Yes, 100%. People supporting genocidal maniacs have no ethics whatsoever.