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Wi-Fi spy with my little eye that same guy I saw at another hotspot

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[–] Corigan@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

YAY!

No seriously stop inventing these systems. Like what positive outcome could there be but mass surveillance and attacks on peoples.

[–] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that not what is funding the invention of these features though?

[–] Corigan@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I guess my point is what right minded person would volunteer their time and expertise to create tools like thls

[–] DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well I doubt they're volunteering, probably paid. And not everyone has the luxury of being able to quit a job based on how it clashes with their own values.

If they're volunteering though, then I agree with you 100%.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The majority of high paid tech workers give fuck-all about ethics though. The amount of people that left Google, Microsoft, etc for their work with Israel’s military was negligible, and many of them probably have a decent financial cushion they could sit on while finding a new job, but the money is too good. And people are climbing over each other to get jobs at Palantir and the like. I’ve noticed a pretty big intersection with high paid tech workers and anarcho-capitalism, where they think as long as they and their families make it out ok, it doesn’t matter what happens to others.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The fix for this is realizing how much you stress yourself out when you fuck over everybody around you, suddenly putting them in a worse mood, making them far less fun to be around, and putting yourself and loved ones around drivers who are more frazzled, and generally predisposing your neighbors to attack you rather than help you.

Anybody who does that, and calls it "selfish", is fuckin dumb.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is an interesting discussion topic because both angles have good points and that feels unusual these days. On the one hand I think you're right that some people need the work and that can justify pushing some minor ethical boundaries. On the other hand, the "I'm just doing my job" line of reasoning has been used to justify some pretty horrific stuff throughout history.

A line separating the two should certainly be drawn somewhere but I'm not sure exactly where to put it. I'm pretty confident that a lot of the bad stuff happening in the world right now would improve if more people were more thoughtful about where that line should be.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

There wouldn't need to be much of a line if we simply got such companies to cough up for UBI.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Graduate students fishing for grant money implying that this has some kind of real world usecase. (It's nonsense)

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

People who need to eat, I guess :(

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

someone who is offered a large salary usually, same reason people work at lockheed martin

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Serious answer?

mmwave sensors are a gift for home-automation

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Twist: We can also be tracked by how we stop light...

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

not if you just run all the reds

[–] rami@ani.social 5 points 1 month ago

this one made me feel immensely better about this bs, thank you for posting

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago

Its 2020, the year two thousand.
We are robots.

We can track humans via the unique way cancer cells disrupt Wi-Fi signals.

Too bad we haven't found a good way to detect or cure cancer.

8G signals can scan the human body based primarily on the amount of HIV virus.

Anyway, we're still far away from a cure but we can tell if you have HIV thru our illness app.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

Welp, time to start wearing clothes with movable wifi blocking patches in them, I guess...

[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

privacy preserving bio modality? Privacy? PRIVACY??? YOURE USING WIFI TO PINPOINT PEOPLE'S POSITION, WHICH PART OF THIS IS "PRIVACY"?

[–] notabot@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It tracks the location of a body (or anything else that causes the same sort if interference), but it doesn't identify the person, and as such they can reasonably make the claim that this technology is privacy preserving.

Of course, as with anything that claims to anonymise data, or preserve privacy, that assertion starts to fall down when you use the resulting data in conjunction with other data sources, even if they too claim to be privacy preserving.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We all know where this is going. Oh well, guess we need Faraday suits now.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder if underpowering a wifi frequency jammer and keeping it in your pocket would let wifi still work but break this sort of 'vision'

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Goddamn, every day it's a new nightmare. I just want out. Babies born now will never know what it was like to be a free-ish human.

[–] Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The WiFi tracking tech is not too new, but re-identification of subjects is. That is, instead of the shopping centre having to build up their own database to profile you, they can just match your unique biomarker to a external data broker's database, supposedly.

[–] Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

a biomarker data broker, the future is grim

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Waiting for the invention what, when, and where-fi.

Honestly, this sounds like a company with no real product trying to fleece law enforcement and government officials who are already drunk on the power of surveillance.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Expressing my 10th frustrated sighof the day

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Sure and I heard you can listen to conversations that happened in rooms by measuring the slow liqufaction of the glass in the windows

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Finally, a use for my lead paint spattered coverall