The smaller one has a bigger bed π€¦
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My biggest gripe with modern trucks really. Have fun putting that new refrigerator you needed in there and then getting it out once you're home, and God forbid you put a toolbox behind the cab, you're climbing into that bed to get every little thing you didn't think you'd need because you can't just get it by reaching over the side.
Modern trucks are so fucking ridiculous Ford added a fold out stepladder to the tailgate on their trucks.
Chevy had a great idea with the Avalanche (that they've brought back with the Silverado EV). It had "saddlebags" - lockable waterproof storage on either side of the bed which Dodge copied with the Rambox.
The big feature though is the midgate which allowed you to open a panel from behind the back seats to access the bed and effectively converted the truck into a single-cab with an 8' bed. Great thing about that feature is if you had something that slid to the front of the bed, you can get to it through the cab.
Also, gets 10 more MPG. Which is funny cuz the new trucks should have eco boost and all sorts of new more fuel efficiency modes or whatever but instead they're so large and over designed ("Military Grade!!!!!" Pshhhhhhh) they get even less mpg on average.
Truly only for show
That's fake. There's way too much bed space.
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God I miss small trucks. So much. So so much.
Right? All it needs to do is carry a stack of 4x8 plywood and a bunch of 2x4s, or the entire contents of a two-room apartment -- something a 1980's "mini" pickup like the Ford Ranger or Chevy S10 could easily handle.
The bed is a little narrow for 4x8' sheets of material on a 90s Ranger. There's only about 41" between the wheel arches and the opening in the bed itself above the arches is about 44" which is not quite enough. (It's wider in the gap above the arches but before the top lip of the bed, but you'll never get anything into that space that can't be disassembled or moved with a shovel...) You could stand your material up on edge, but don't try that with drywall. 48x40" pallets are no problem, though. Or at least one of them at a time. It'll slide right in there provided if and only if you orient it with the skinny dimension between the arches. Ditto with 2x4s if you want to leave the tailgate up. Otherwise your strap game had better be strong because the standard model has a 6' bed and the longer 7' bed is both rare and also not quite long enough. I used to drive a 90s Ranger for work and believe me, I crammed, or tried to cram, every type of thing you can think of into the back of it at some point or another. You can get a lot done with one but sheet goods are their downfall.
The 8' bed work trucks of the era could do what you're describing perfectly, and do so better than today's "full size" trucks while maintaining a smaller footprint on the pavement. That, and you can actually see out of the goddamned windows. I have a 90s Silverado in fleet truck spec, crank windows and a single cab with an 8' bed. I can indeed stack 4x8' drywall or ply neatly between the wheel arches and even close the tailgate on it. Much to the envy of my coworkers, who still pathologically own dinkum 6' bed crew cab so-called trucks that they can't fit anything into the back of, and then destroy the back seats "ThAt tHeY ToTaLlY NeEd bEcAuSe oF ReAsOnS" by jamming them full of tools and dirty materials anyway, so the whole thing is pointless. At that rate you may as well just get a van and call it a day.
1996-the end dodge grand caravan / Chrysler Town and country minivans can fit 4x8 drywall up to a bit over a foot deep, more if you're able to slide the front seats up. I finished out my basement hauling 2x4's and drywall in my 2012 t&c. Damn side better gas mileage too
the one on the right
is also the one on the left... π
the text is actually from a pre-existing post
Pictured: a pickup truck in front of a cope wagon.
Every time I see a complaint about truck sizes, I make it a point to share this video explaining how it's actually the EPA's fault trucks have gotten so big.
how itβs actually the EPAβs fault trucks have gotten so big.
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No, the corporation's horrible behaviour is the fault of the regulators & regulations.
Plus those corporations are the ones lobbying for those regulations.
While regulatory capture is a huge problem, in this case, auto manufacturers definitely didn't write this. They would like nothing more than to see it go away, or at least rolled back to where it was a couple decades ago. Overall that would be bad for fuel efficiency standards, but it would allow for small pickups again.
In my completely amateur opinion, a solution would be a cutoff on the wheelbase where a vehicle was no longer a car/light truck, but a new catagory with different higher standards. Or maybe a carve out for vehicles with a bed that allowed a little wiggle room for smaller vehicles. I don't like the idea of allowing less fuel efficiency, but if the choice is between a small truck that misses the fuel requirements of a similarly sized car by a few MPG or a behemoth with half the MPG, I'll come down on the side of a carve out for little trucks.
I feel like its the categories that are the issue. Flat tax by fuel unit per distance unit, then offer tax credits to farm and small business vehicles. This incentivises everyone to go for the most fuel efficient vehicle they can manage
It may not be only the EPA's fault, but an unintended consequences of the CAFE standards and how they change over time is a perverse incentive to increase wheelbase and track, lowering the fuel efficiency instead of raising it.
If you haven't yet, watch the video. It does a good job explaining why you can't make the Chevy S10 we used to see all over the place in the 90s without a big penalty that would make it too expensive.
Trucks, cars, all of it. I praise Mazda for keeping the Miata/MX-5 small when almost nobody else has.
if only they didn't give it headlights that blind people
nearly drove into one last night because it was coming up a small hill in front of me in my neighbourhood (on a curve) and I drifted left as I slowed down to ensure I didn't hit the pedestrians to my right. couldn't see a fucking thing because of its 'lowbeams'
I feel this with so many new cars. Particularly when driving my car instead of my wife's which is pretty short.
At my job, I load full pallets of concrete, drywall, plywood, etc, into customer trucks all day every day.
The bigger the truck, the more likely the customer is going to be a pain in the ass. Wishy washy about how much load they can carry, and crying up a storm if you touch the tailgate.
Smaller truck? Load up and go, They'll probably be back for more in a few hours too.
I like to tell people that if their truck can't handle the load, then they paid too much for the truck.
Also also, bigger trucks tend to be parked like douchbaggs more often than smaller trucks, just blocking the way for everyone.
Same bed size, probably same payload capacity, and you can actually grab something out of the bed on the old truck without needing a stepladder. Really the only thing that the new truck does better is towing, simply due to added engine power and bigger breaks.
That new truck is a F250 which can handle a lot more weight in the bed than the small truck. It wasn't much smaller of a truck 40 years ago.
Describing one of these as "on the right" is a wild choice.
What they have told us is true ... from a certain point of view.
Technically true is certainly a form of true.
I really don't understand the appeal of cars of that size...
I had a co-worker who got an oversized and lifted monster of a pickup, and I asked him what he's compensating for. He replied "my height" - he was a short but good natured guy, we had a good laugh.
And the testicles hang useless from its license plate. They snipped the wrong bits. Poor things...
I plan to buy another truck when the time is right. I would be looking for a high towing capacity, heavy duty drivetrain & leaf springs etc, 4WD, off road suspension and at least a 6.5" bed, a long bed would be fine too. But I plan on buying a single cab work truck, not a crew or family hauler (if they still make single cab trucks at the time).
I bought my current SUV for my wife but she had to stop driving it because of physical problems so I've made it kinda suit my needs with a bunch of modifications and upgrades. But I really need a truck for what I use it for.
Them bumpers don't line up and the wheel well of the "modern" one is taller than the hood and bed.
I donβt want to disrupt the circle jerk but those are two different models so this is not an apples to apples comparison. This is like comparing someoneβs Subaru Outback to a Cadillac Escalade. Those are both SUVs but the Escalade is much bigger than the Outback. Iβm not saying that trucks havenβt become giant monstrosities in recent history but this is a misleading post. If you compare a Ford Ranger or Tacoma from 20 years ago, it has gotten larger but itβs still a modest sized pickup truck in 2025.
I am a contractor and drive a pick up for work, itβs big and dumb.