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[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago

All my homies hate Collective Shout

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We should go back to sending the cash per physical mail…

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine mail-order catalogs of hentai games on CD-ROM, or even cheap flash drives, in 2025.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 46 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

I don't get it. Do payment processors want less money? Do they hate being entrenched and bringing in revenue just for existing? Do they want us to try and find alternatives to them?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They make money hand over first for doing practically nothing... They're perfectly happy with their current situation and the most important thing to them right now is not rocking the boat.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

this bullshit is surely coming from the recently intensifying family friendlinessification of the internet, but why the fuck do payment processors care? i have no idea. are they taking a cut of advertising revenue? do all ceos just want to appear as massive prudes? do they see children as an untapped market to exploit? or maybe they're just fucking stupid? what is actually going on

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Capitalism is creating a level of censorship that exceeded what the US government was ever able to do after the Warren court. Parts of this have been there for a long time. You can drop f-bombs on cable TV all you like; the FCC can't do anything about it since it's not over public airwaves. They generally don't do that, because advertisers don't like it. Capitalism set the rule, not the government.

YouTube has put this idea into overdrive. You can't make a straightforward, monetized video about the Holocaust anymore, because the language you would have to use would violate YouTube's written and unwritten rules. Meanwhile, actual fucking Nazis have had little issue using YouTube to spread their bullshit.

Credit card companies have had issues with porn sites in terms of fraud reporting. Not necessarily because of actual fraud--if the site you use is under CCbill, it's fine--but because some guy's spouse sees the card transactions, asks what this particular line is for, and he lies and says it's probably fraud and he'll call it in. Get more than a few of those, and the processor will always be flagged for review.

They do outright stop some of the more fringe porn. Bree Mills (of Adulttime) has said that they get limited by the credit card industry far more than the government. All the faux-incest videos go out of their way to mention in dialog that everyone is a step family and over 18. You won't find scat on Kink.com, again because their payment processor won't allow it.

That's been the situation for a few decades, but it has gone beyond that in the last few years. They tried it on OnlyFans, and the company maneuvered things to show why that's an incredibly bad idea, and then the card companies backed down. But they're trying again elsewhere, and they're starting to be successful. I severely doubt they had any significant fraud issues on Steam or itch.io, NSFW items or otherwise.

Ultimately, this stuff is a tiny slice of their revenue. If they want to shut it all down on a moral crusade, they will barely notice the hit to their numbers.

On a side note, I'd like the advocate that you should pay for porn if it's within your means. You'll often find better quality stuff at sites that properly run their sets with consent. If you like queer porn or unconventional body types, there are a lot of sites for that which just don't show up on PornHub.

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[–] bbsm3678@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (23 children)

I find it funny that a lot of the fediverse is anti-cryptocurrency, yet this is a perfect example of a problem cryptocurrency can solve. No one can stop you from transacting on a number of blockchains.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Crypto is so heavily regulated now, I don't even know how to procure any cause all the sites I have used years ago are just dead now.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Can we crowdfund a big lawsuit against those responsible for this?

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Against banks? I love the enthusiasm but this is not the way. Banks as a whole have many of the best lawyers in the game on retainer (possession is 9/10ths of the law, and this industry banks on that and make bank.) The best crowdfunding campaign in history* is 800 million. The banks would be willing to spend at least that in their own defence.

*not including investments (nor blockchain)

Plus, a progressive lawsuit in this environment? Might backfire spectacularly - right now banks are cautiously picking on 'safe' targets. But with a green light from the supreme court the banks could go full Nazi. Yeah - there's nothing good I can reasonably expect here.

Or use cryptocurrency more

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[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Are we still doing phrasing also thank god they’re not coming for the ultra violence and graphic scenes of bodily dismemberment

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Holy fuck why did Collective Shout go full nuclear and go behind the platforms’ back and straight to the payment processors. Like they could have at least talk to the Itch.io people.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they wanted any games banned all they had to do was talk to the Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC) in Australia, where they're based. Any of the games listed would have likely been added to the 'Refused Classification' list and thereby banned from sale and import in Australia. If they wanted them pulled from Steam or Itch entirely they could have talked to those platforms.

But they didn't want to raise objections through appropriate preexisting channels, they wanted to push their Christian-based ideology on the whole world by going Karen on the social media of all the payment processors.

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[–] LikeableLime@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How do platforms like Patreon and OnlyFans circumvent this? I know OF had issues with payment processors in the past but I'm not sure what changes they implemented to stay compliant. There must be some way for itch.io to keep these things on their platform while not pissing off the payment processors (who can go fuck themselves btw, this is completely unnecessary)

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[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Hmmm. Could porn once again because the medium catalyst for bitcoin to take off.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The comment section of my favorite adult Visual novel is already getting panicked.

Eternum is really really good I swear it's not just porn

Apparently there is some petition? Taking a look now.

Edit: Yup. Go sign it

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 25 points 3 days ago

This is what killed tumblr.

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