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wayward vagabond from homestuck: we should improve technology somewhat. well dweller: xkcd 927 "standards"

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm just saying we should kill crypto

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 97 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It needs to stop pretending to be an investment and go back to strictly being what it was born to be.

A means to pay for illegal drugs on the internet.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Crypto was better even before this when hundreds of bitcoin were worth a few cents.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Just wait. It'll be that way again.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago
[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not that I'm a proponent of it or anything, but people were saying the exact same thing ten years ago after the first big bubble. I don't think it's going anywhere. There's too much greed in the world, and it's too enticing. At this point you might as well be a nun trying to get porn banned worldwide.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It will only get that way if it reduces in scale substantially, otherwise that just isn't realistic imo

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'd rather uppercut myself.

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was never an anonymous form of payment. And you didn't hear it from me, but a certain agency has nearly the whole thing mapped to real people (when possible). There's a whole division dedicated to it.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Monero: 🗿

[–] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A very Cool and Popular opinion to have right now

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

thank u its my opinion too

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Without knowing the context of what drove OP to make this meme, my guess is they have some high and mighty idea for some sort of standard and someone else pointed out the XKCD comic is the most likely result.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

“You know what it would be cool if Lemmy could do?”

Replies: xkcd standards strip, 15 times

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love how both FB messenger and Google talk/chat/whatever were compatible for 3 months, thanks to a fucking standard, before they both "improved somewhat" to be incompatible.

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

All hail XMPP!

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I know that XKCD comic in particular but I don't get what's going on with the image it's been superimposed on to or what it has to do with it.

[–] csfirecracker@lemmyf.uk 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The original image has something along the lines of "I hate this system" and the smug guy in the well is saying "Ah, and yet you participate in said system!" as a gotcha. I think the purpose in this one is just carrying over the smugness with which people post the XKCD when any new possible technological standard is proposed (whether or not it has any merits)

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

Aaah ok. Needs the previous exposure to both images.

[–] neptune@dmv.social 6 points 2 years ago

It's become a meme where a poor soul wants some thing, and the kid pops out of the well with a trite rebuttal.

In this case, the trite rebuttal is a cartoon about technological standards.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A bad standard adds to the pile.

A good standard crushes the pile.

Example: Git and Linux.

Proof: what are the other source management softwares? (Don’t mention Mercurial, that’s cheating).

Also for Linux, it’s down to the license and history. Linux isn’t a bad investment because all commits directly to the kernel are given freely to all. And it’s not Unix. It doesn’t have the stain of AT&T and their sue happy ways. Also Linux dominates all computer markets except for user desktops. Servers, phones, application specific utilities, etc.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago

Fossil, GNU Bazaar, SVN, as well as some other lesser known ones

[–] Eiim@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

SVN, and whatever that thing Microsoft was doing once

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, CVS, cvsup, both of which I've used in my early Linux years.

And fossil -- which is the revision control system sqlite uses and I kind of like :)

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is also the version control system that uses sqlite which is pretty cool as far as disk space and resiliency are concerned esp. as compared to Git.

I don't however like that it prides itself on not having any history rewriting features because I am kind of a fan of those. I like keeping embarrassing mistakes like a typo'd commit message or missing file out of my permanent commit history.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I actually miss SVN. It had a lot of issues, yes, but the cognitive barrier was so much smaller. When I have a merge error in git, I basically just delete my repo and make a new one...

[–] kpw@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How about improving existing standard implementations instead of more fragmentation?

[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 25 points 2 years ago

Unless the original standard agrees and implements it, then you've just created a new standard.

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are times when the original standard has zero forwards compatibility in it, such that any improvement made to it necessarily creates a new standard.

And then there's also times when old greybeards simply disregard the improved standard because they are too used to the classic way.

[–] tslnox@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago

Greybeards

Lok, thu'um, Dovahkiin.

[–] bort@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

python2 - python3

usb 1, 2, 3

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

I like the idea of having a regulated, living, backwards compatible standard. Which seems to be what USB-C is now, for phones. The EU has soon to be active regulation that will make it a requirement for many things. Yet, it's not a single, set in stone standard, but one that's constantly being expanded (eg, version 3.2 and PD).

Of course, the regulation has to also be living. Eg, at some point, maybe there'll be a strong enough reason to allow another standard (by no means do I think USB-C will always make sense). And the regulation has to very carefully choose the standard.

That way we get the benefits of standardization (from actually everyone using the same format), but we aren't unreasonably crippling ourselves to do it.

[–] dokapuff@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is the alt text calling the peasant "Wayward Vagabond from homestuck?" I mean that's fucking hilarious but why

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

This meme should be the new standard format to resist standard proliferation!

[–] mykneedoesnthurt@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

BRO WHY DO YOU WANT TO IMPROVE TECH - I AM TRIGGERED BY THIS