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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 27 minutes ago

Still trying to figure out what happened in the second frame.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 4 hours ago

Brazil had something like that in the early republic days, only literate people could vote. Needless to say, only the robber baron elites kept getting elected, also thanks to the significant amount of fraud that happened. "The election is won during the counting"

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 37 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck no. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_test

Between the 1850s and 1960s, literacy tests were used as an effective tool for disenfranchising African Americans in the Southern United States. Literacy tests were typically administered by white clerks who could pass or fail a person at their discretion based on race. Illiterate whites were often permitted to vote without taking these literacy tests because of grandfather clauses written into legislation.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The problem there is the administration of the tests, not the tests themselves.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And that is a non-solvable problem.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We just need to make sure the voting machines are not racist. Solvable, if we're starting from scratch.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The phrase "voting machine" is also a problem.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Only when accompanied by "paperless" or "closed source"

Nope. It'll never work. Because when I walk into the voting booth, how do I KNOW FOR A VERIFIABLE FACT that this machine here in the booth with me is running the published software?

Computerized voting will always be a mistake.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (7 children)

you think the current racist rich people wouldn't be racist and rich if we introduced an exam to the voting process?

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[–] astutemural@midwest.social 6 points 5 hours ago

InB4 the Non-Voters just start doing the Wilmington Massacre repeatedly.

Check your history books about what happens when the majority of the population has no political voice. Things get ugly.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Except the candidates would all be garbage anyways haha

[–] anon@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 hour ago

Candidates being all garbage is exactly what you'd expect when they're just pawns for the people actually running the government (i.e. owners of big corporations).

Since they're shit, they're not popular and can't achieve much on their own. When they're not useful anymore they can be blamed and replaced by the next puppet.

Of course they're also shit, exactly because they're in the pocket of the very wealthy. In the US it seems even impossible to gain any significant position without their blessing.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world -1 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (1 children)

Hahaha both sides, am I right. Ahahahahh

Shut the he fuck up and actually vote in primaries and we will have better candidates.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

I vote in all the primaries you shut the fuck up you don't know who you are talking to dude

The options in the primaries usually suck too or the people in power push out the ones the people actually like.

[–] eluvatar@programming.dev 47 points 10 hours ago (17 children)

Who determines the questions and answers? Now they are the ones determining who can vote and thus the people in control.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 37 points 12 hours ago

They used to do that in the US during the Jim Crow era. It went predictably.

[–] bremen15@feddit.org 20 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

It's not working. We have relatively equal education in Germany, and we have plenty of intelligent, educated people voting far right.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

“Educated” does not equal intelligent, and it certainly does not imply broad intelligence. You can train a relatively stupid human being to do all kinds of stuff and if you’ve ever worked with people with degrees you know what little value they carry.

I went to college and have white collar career and my family is largely university educated. I worked with structural engineers at my last job and half them were just barely able to do their jobs with the worst ones being the senior people. Elsewhere in the world there have been anti-vax doctors and nurses, psychotic therapists, and theologians who have read the bible who still do all the horrible things they definitely know are bullshit. I bet nearly half the people here on Lemmy know a software developer or three who shouldn’t ever touch a computer. People with degrees are more likely to be more intelligent but, especially while living in a world where they’re basically expected, that’s really just not a guarantee.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Even people who are actually smart buy into fascism, though. It's not just a question of dumb vs intelligent, but of ethics.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We have govs and gobs and gobs of research that show that the best forward for everyone is cooperation. In fact, a lot of that research explicitly shows that the least ethical approaches are often the worst ones by nearly every metric except for “gives a handful of the wrong people way too much power”.

It’s like the four day work week and how we know it’s better not only for employee happiness but also for productivity and talent retention. We know that paying people fairly means that people can actually afford to buy the products we sell. We know that GDP is a bad measure of economic strength and that the most robust economies are those where a lot of smaller amounts change hands frequently. We as a species know all this, and anyone I would consider intelligent would have picked up on these patterns even if they weren’t explicitly told but they ARE being told, over and over again.

We need a new measure of what intelligence is but anything qualitative instead of quantitative is incredibly difficult for most people to grasp and they end worshipping the worst people who have stuff regardless of how they got it. I have the same diploma as my classmates and most of them shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near building design; pointing out my ability to graduate from a program even they could graduate from is not worth that much.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Intelligent people are not omniscient or universally unbiased. Just because they're capable of doing a difficult job well, speak eloquently or excel in IQ tests doesn't mean they won't fall for political fallacies, aren't xenophobic etc..

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