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Collective Shout, a small but vocal lobby group, has long called for a mandatory internet filter that would prevent access to adult content for everyone in Australia. Its director, Melinda Tankard Reist, was recently appointed to the stakeholder advisory board for the government’s age assurance technology trial before the under-16s social media ban comes into effect in Australia in December.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 250 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Keep the pressure on.

Collective Shout got them to change their position and they're a small group. We are legion, as the kids say

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 115 points 1 month ago (7 children)

And we're the ones spending the money

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 27 points 1 month ago

That's really what I don't get. Why make it impossible for people to give you money. That doesn't seem to be the way capitalism is supposed to operate if something is popular then you should allow it.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 154 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What's even the argument here? Steam already has parental control options, age gates, and content filters... if you don't want your kids seeing that shit on steam, then, like, don't let em?

...meanwhile, let's just continue shoving blatant gambling down minors' throats in the form of lootboxes.

[–] Lebensmittel@sh.itjust.works 96 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The argument is control. Religious zealots are all about controlling society and subduing people to follow their rules (that they themselves tend to break all the time)

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

That's their goal for sure, what I mean is how are they pretending to justify it?

There's usually some on-paper benevolent veneer to wrap their hateful bullshit up with.

For example, they hate trans people, but they don't campaign on that out loud - they justify that hated under the guise of shit like protecting bathrooms.

But this is fucking Steam - access to that bathroom is already under lock and key behind an armed guard. They can't just pull the "think of the children!" card when the children already have a myriad of protections.

...or maybe they can, considering what just happened. We live in stupid times.

[–] Lebensmittel@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They precisely can and they kinda just did. "Think of the children" is the magic phrase to shut down critical thinking and give you carte blanche to do whatever you want.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 71 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This group isn't interested in protecting children they're just interested in pushing their own beliefs on everybody else. The easiest way they can do that is to pretend that they're interested in children. Which I'm sure some of them are, but not in the capacity that anyone wants them to be.

It's a classic right-wing tactic. Because nobody wants to be against a law that protects children.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 136 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Feels like we're going back to the 90s/00s "Christian parents against video games" moral panic era. But this time, they're being appeased more heavily.

I despise conservatism. It destroys everything it touches.

[–] TheTurner@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 month ago

It's another Satanic Panic.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And there's way fewer Christians nowadays

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 132 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

While Collective Shout solely targeted games it said violated policies held by payment platforms, Itch.io's move to temporarily remove all NSFW content resulted in games with LGBTQ+ themes being removed.

One petition signer who is a member of the LGBTQ+ community said they were concerned that banning sexual-based games would be the start of cracking down on LGBTQ+ content.

There it is.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (12 children)

if the LGBTQ+ games were not sexual in nature (why does it not say?), then that is quite damning and I approve of this conspiracy theory.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you google Tankard-Reist you'll find it's not a conspiracy theory - she has actively tried to block queer representation at every level in every way for decades

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[–] chaonaut@lemmy.4d2.org 39 points 1 month ago

It's not all that much of a conspiracy theory as those pushing this line at the payment processoers openly advocate that since LGBTQ+ references sex by way of sexuality and gender, then that is sexual content, and is therefore inappropriate for children. This, of course, completely ignores heterosexuality and cisgender because they consider queer people existing to be harmful to children. And trying to get through to them about how important age-appropriate sexual education is in combating child abuse is an exercise in frustration.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 month ago

politicians have literally said that the reason for censorship bills about the internet are specifically to go after lgbtq spaces.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 115 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Somebody should check their PCs and internet history; after all, name a better duo than Conservatives and Projection.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’d bet real money that the CEO of Collective Shout has CSAM on one or more of their computers.

[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I would put ten dollars on it.

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[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"[Elon Musk] said he wanted to get his own X payments platform «going soon»".

Surely that's going to solve the problem. There's absolutely no censorship on Twitter. /s

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The Mastercard/Visa monopoly (or duopoly) is bad for consumers. It should be broken up.

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[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago

Fuck Collective Shout, or anyone spreading censorship!

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"Face backlash" = about 160,000 people signed a petition saying they disagreed with it, then went about their daily lives and totally, 100% without a doubt continued using their Visa or Mastercard credit cards.

They don't care, there are no alternatives. They can do whatever they want.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“The internet has no borders. Women and girls everywhere are impacted by male violence against women and misogyny in general which we believed these games perpetuated,” she said.

Yet the fictional violence against men and boys is A-Ok!

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As long as it is legal CC companies should be barred from dictating what products and services their systems cover.

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 month ago (5 children)

When is the European alternative to these coming?

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

An alternative to PayPal, called WERO is currently in it's rollout process in Germany, Belgium and France. In October the next step will be activated, allowing payments in e-commerce. Later down the road, you'll be able to pay in real shops. Luxembourg and Netherlands are to join in next. More and more banks start to adopt WERO.

I urge everyone to use WERO as much as you can. It's flying a bit under the radar at the moment and this must be a success. Hopefully more EU members will join soon.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Tired of this story. The fucking prudes need to give up and stop already. Shit

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 24 points 1 month ago

Yet 1000 weirdos in Australia will have more sway, curiously.

[–] xep@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago (13 children)

What are the alternatives to Visa/Mastercard?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Discover, American Express, Diner’s Club, and the one that still rules them all, Cash. There are probably others, but Visa and Mastercard are the two largest.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’d love to boycott them, but literally everything I do uses one of those 2.

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