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Playing card sleeves? (feddit.nu)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by lime@feddit.nu to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk
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i finally received my crowdfunded copy of Earthborne Rangers, which due to its environmentally friendly goal, made all their cards without the plastic core cards usually have in order to spare the environment. they're all floppy and fragile, so they definitely need sleeves. only... there's around 1300 cards.

buying cheap card sleeves from china would run me around โ‚ฌ16 plus import duty, but all the ones i can find in local stores are like โ‚ฌ5 for 100... that's a lot of money. and i don't even know where those are produced.

so, any recommendations on where to get sleeves? preferably with some rigidity if that's a thing that exists? i think the cards are like 88x63mm.

Edit:

Turns out Arcane Tinmen, from Denmark, make some of their sleeves in-house! so Dragonshield sleeves are indeed european, except the really cheap ones.

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[โ€“] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Check out Arcane Tinmen's sleeves. They also produce Dragonshield sleeves for standard size playing cards and card games, think Flesh and Blood and Magic the Gathering, but they also have an assortment of sizes for boardgames and non-standard size card games that would likely run you cheaper than Dragonshield.. Afaik, they're from the Netherlands, can't comment on where the sleeves are produced, though, possibly China too.

Another option would be Katana sleeves by Ultimate Guard. They're a little cheaper than Dragonshield, have nice quality and shuffle feel (from what I've heard), and Ultimate Guard is from Germany. Again, can't comment on where they are produced, but I imagine most sleeves are probably made in China.

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago

that's a second recommendation for dragonshield :) seems like that's the way to go then. i think i can get by cheaper by not sleeving every card, with 1300 of them most are not regularly used.

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

an update: i checked the packages of dragonshield i bought and they do say "made in denmark" on them!

[โ€“] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's awesome - wouldn't have expected that! How many did you end up getting? And how expensive was it?

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I got 200 of the AT-11821 "non-glare clear", with a matte front and a textured back, which are awesome but way too expensive at like โ‚ฌ26 for two packets. then i got 600 of the AT-60205 "clear/non-clare common standard", with a glossy front and a slightly less translucent matte back, which... also cost โ‚ฌ26, for six packets. so way better value, but not as nice.

...actually, looking at the packaging side by side, the 60205s are made in china. darn.

[โ€“] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a shame but at least it's a company that's from Europe, right?

Also didn't expect you to find those sleeves for that cheap. Are those 60-sleeve packs or 100-packs?

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

all of them are hundreds. specifically the 11821s were 135SEK (โ‚ฌ12.10) each and the 60205s were 59SEK (โ‚ฌ5.29) from another store, so i miscounted a bit

[โ€“] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a pretty good deal then, damn

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you think? i thought it was expensive...

[โ€“] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A standard pack of Dragonshield sleeves usually runs you around 10โ‚ฌ/pack at retail regardless of what kind of sleeves they are. Some colours are more expensive, art sleeves are also more expensive usually. Matte clear sleeves, depending on where you buy them, either go for the 5-6โ‚ฌ/pack you paid online or they're at around 10โ‚ฌ/pack at retail or local game stores/trading card shops. So you paid a good price for yours. And considering that you're buying quality sleeves that are very durable and will likely last you quite a while, that's a good deal.

Basic boardgame sleeves are usually cheaper but they're also heaps cheaper in terms of quality, don't shuffle well, are very flimsy and break easily. If you don't mind that, you could have also gone for those. Not a huge recommendation on my part and since you're already decked out too, probably not needed at this point.

Overall, it's not cheap as an absolute number, but it's comparatively cheap for what you're getting and how much you could have been spending for them.

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

that's very fair. thanks for soothing my mind a bit on the issue.

...now i just have to get six more packs to cover all the cards. and the box is already starting to bulge a bit.

[โ€“] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You could look into 3D-printing a new box or getting a wooden box off Etsy or something if you find the cards not fitting anymore. If you find one in the size you need

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago

yeah i am doing that, since the sleeved cards take so much space that the other components don't fit anymore. problem is i feel like i've spent too buch money ot this already. the game with expansions and wood upgrades was already like โ‚ฌ280.

[โ€“] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's the footprint of the sleeves? Seems that the creators kind of messed up on that one.

No clue where you can buy them, though. I doubt these are produced in Europe, so China or diy are probably the only solutions.

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

not sure i understand the first question, sleeves are sold by the measurements of the cards they fit. there are 88x63mm sleeves, it's like the most common size. i just want to know if there are brands made here.

[โ€“] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You wrote:

Playing card sleeves?

i finally received my crowdfunded copy of Earthborne Rangers, which due to its environmentally friendly goal, made all their cards without the plastic core cards usually have in order to spare the environment. they're all floppy and fragile, so they definitely need sleeves. only... there's around 1300 cards.

So the game producer reduces their environmental footprint, but because of that, customers have to buy plastic sleeves.

My question is: what is the environmental footprint of these sleeves? Because if it's higher that the original one, that's pretty stupid.

But anyway: as commented, I doubt that there are any European manufacturers doing that. So you're only options are likely either to make them yourself, or buy Chinese ones.

Note that even the ones in your local shop are likely made in China.

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

ooooooh, i gotcha. carbon footprint.

people did say that to them at the start, but i think it's more about the process of putting all the stuff together. you need different chemicals to laminate the two substances together. and since not everyone sleeves their cards and only some cards actually need sleeves, i think the total footprint is a lot lower.